Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, sabremike said: My take: The Aquabats got fucking jobbed. There is always hope Vince gets mauled by the cat with two heads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, The Magnificent 7 said: I keep hearing “nip-up” on wrestling commentary lately instead of the proper “kip-up” and I’m convinced the Mandela Effect is messing with me. Until the last few weeks I’ve never heard it called a nip-up. What the fuck is going on? This is the biggest evidence that we’ve slipped into an alternate reality since Dolly not having braces in Moonraker. I feel like I've heard both for decades, FWIW. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The Kip-up was invented by Billy Gunn. The Nip-up was invented during prohibition. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) I've heard both terms used for the same thing interchangeably forever. I don't know which is right. According to wikipedia's kip-up entry they're the same thing. Although, that one is disputed for lack of sources~! There's also a nip-up entry. Both are in the dictionary. Definition of nip-up : a spring from a supine position to a standing position Definition of kip-up : a kip executed from a supine position on the mat in tumbling Edited November 28, 2019 by Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Six String Orchestra said: Unpopular opinion time: Michael Cole isn't a bad announcer. He just calls matches how Vince likes them to be. I felt his commentary for Bryan/Orton/Batista and Team Cena/ Team HHH in 2014 are good examples of him actually selling the match well. Cole's fantastic and fuck anyone who says otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Time to ignore the family and watch classic Survivor Series. Oh and that Impact episode where Kurt Angle hosted Thanksgiving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MORELOCK said: Cole's fantastic and fuck anyone who says otherwise. This sounds oddly familiar... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 Figured more posters will see this here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Carrying on that trail of thought, Happy Thanksgiving to American posters on this great message board xxx. Edited November 28, 2019 by The Natural 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Wasn't that the show where Balor won the NXT title from KO? I can't imagine anyone being good with Vince screaming in their ear. His work in the early NXT when they became the replacement for FCW was much better than his main roster work at the time. This was probably a year after the awful heel announcer run. Even his heel work on the NXT Redemption season was good because it wasn't overproduced and every was just having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 hours ago, The Natural said: Figured more posters will see this here. So, has anybody ordered A Little Bit of the Bubbly? I'm very tempted to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Gonna leave this here as well as in the MLW thread, maybe it'll get more eyeballs on it. Thanksgiving Fusion is on Youtube tonight: https://mlw.com/2019/11/27/fusion-on-thanksgiving-preview/ Some wrestling for your Turkey Day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Cole fits the archetype as to what Vince want's in a commentator, so in that respect, he's good. I guess? Still think Tom Phillips is the best they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Michael Cole was fucking terrible when he debuted. his run as a heel was arguably the all-time worst announcing moment. he has never been above mediocre IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Cole is a lifer, a company man, and good at his job for what it is. He's not a legend. There is no Michael Cole call that gets replayed on even WWE's social media. No wrestler hopes Cole calls their match because that's the announcer they grew up listening to, even though for many of them he is. The times I've enjoyed his announcing he's been straight play by play with almost zero personality, which is a skill unto itself but doesn't lend itself to gaining legendary status. My memories of Cole's career without looking anything up are: 1) Getting destroyed by Brock. 2) That one time he got shredded. 3) Eddie Guerrero/Kurt Angle from Mania. 4) When he thankfully turned face after Lawler died. 5) Orange singlet. For a twenty year career, that's not a heck of a lot. Full disclosure, I wasn't watching regularly between 2002 and 2009 but I've gone back and watched the big moments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6) Getting raped by Heidenreich? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Custos Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Unplugged Cole is entertaining, such as in the overseas ‘live-event spectacles’, to borrow the ridiculous phrasing from that award (sounds like some funky new VR goggles to me, but anyway). I thought he had a good rapport with Tazz albeit a very long time ago. Unfortunately you cannot parrot nonsensical buzzwords and cynically tout the charity stuff for decades without the negatives tarnishing the ventriloquist dummy, even if he is just the messenger, to thoroughly mix my metaphors. My biggest gripe is his artificial excited/emphatic voice that he slides into with such ease, that it’s like someone putting on an emoji mask to let you know they feel a particular emotion then taking it off again. My biggest negative with Tom Phillips is he has adopted the exact same emphatic tone to a tee, presumably learned from his mentor, and this combined with his delivery just makes him sound like a robot. I think Schiavone hits that sweet spot between professional, authoritative while still genuine and a likeable guy that you’ve welcomed into your home. Failing that, give me Booker T or Dusty’s excited incoherence over Cole any day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 VINTAGE ___ ! is the best call. Especially when it becomes attached to certain moves whenever they are hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Custos said: I think Schiavone hits that sweet spot between professional, authoritative while still genuine and a likeable guy that you’ve welcomed into your home. Schiavone used to legit get excited when somebody would get nailed, and the crowd energy picked up. Edited November 28, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 This should be on any Michael Cole list. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custos Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 To be fair, I vividly remember his call of Daniel Bryan winning at WM30 and the end of the streak, so he does have some iconic moments. Plus he’s been through shit like Jerry Lawler collapsing and having to push through the rest of the show, and by all accounts he’s very hands on and helpful at the PC, so I don’t doubt his professionalism and efforts towards helping the business. I just don’t particularly want to hear him call a wrestling show any more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Custos said: To be fair, I vividly remember his call of Daniel Bryan winning at WM30 and the end of the streak, so he does have some iconic moments. This is an example of Michael Cole's best quality as an announcer...he's the only announcer who really gets the importance of someone winning the World Title for the first time. Cole may get into the same "We have a new World Champion! History has been made here!"...but he always gives that little bit more when it's "We have a NEW World Champion! [Wrestler] has just made it to the top of the mountain and etched their name among the all-time greats!" All of Cole's best calls- Daniel Bryan at WM30, Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004, Mankind on 1/4/99...all amazing calls that some of the better announcers would have dropped and failed to make as important. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil4126 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said: This is an example of Michael Cole's best quality as an announcer...he's the only announcer who really gets the importance of someone winning the World Title for the first time. Cole may get into the same "We have a new World Champion! History has been made here!"...but he always gives that little bit more when it's "We have a NEW World Champion! [Wrestler] has just made it to the top of the mountain and etched their name among the all-time greats!" All of Cole's best calls- Daniel Bryan at WM30, Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004, Mankind on 1/4/99...all amazing calls that some of the better announcers would have dropped and failed to make as important. He really does not get enough credit for the no way out call. You could tell it was a legit emotional moment for him. And the excitement was real when he’s cheering for Eddie as he goes up for the frog splash. I have so many issues with him, but dude does have his moments 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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