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NOVEMBER 2019 WRESTLING CHAT.


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3 hours ago, AxB said:

If you want an announcer who used to be a Wrestler but they got injured and their career was cut short, you've got Excalibur, you've got Taz, you've got Joey Matthews. None of them treated a career ending injury like it was an Asshole Licence. Corey Graves does.

At one time I felt very sorry for Corey Graves, he seemed like he had a promising career ahead of him and while I don't think he would have set the world on fire, he seemed quite competent. However, now he ranks among the people that I would like to show the one move that I can still do proficiently at age 62, which is kick people in the head with my right leg*. Yeah, with bad knees and all that I'm pretty much a one-trick pony these days, but it IS an effective trick if it connects.

 

*34 year-old nephew and I were fooling around and he bet me that I couldn't kick that high. After I helped him up he paid me the twenty dollars that he foolishly bet against me. Like I said, I am old and can really only do one move effectively at long range, but I do it pretty well. (He said it was like getting hit with a baseball bat.) Our respective wives then told us to get back in the house and cut the shit...

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I'll never understand why Triple H and Kevin Nash both shaved their glorious hair, but HBK clung to that mess on his head for at least a decade too long. 

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I think it goes without saying in the real world if you subtweeted criticism of a co-worker and that person and/or your company found out, you'd definitely find yourself in an HR meeting at best. But, hey, we all know WWE don't give a fuck unless mainstream media or a sponsor hammers them for it (not even then if it involves money from a certain oil rich regime in the Middle East.)

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Oh, and also, I had to Google Tim Sylvia after trying for several minutes to figure out what wrestling company he won a title for and why he thought people would know him. Once I did, I realized "oh yeah, I kinda remember that dude exists"

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I think deep down the WWE would prefer if Mauro just quit at this point. They don’t seem to care for him, and looking at the responses here, the fans don’t either.

I personally think Mauro just isn’t suited for the WWE. I’ve heard enough of him on fight sports commentary to know how good he can be. How loose he can be. How natural his chemistry is with his co-commentators can be like. I was going to say “Well maybe that’s because wrestling is a different animal”, but then I think back to him working on New Japan’s AXS show, and remember that he had that same kind of talent he’d bring to a boxing, or MMA event for New Japan. So I’m of the opinion that both parties should separate permanently for the sake Mauro’s mental state. It’ll sting a lot for him, because of his fandom for the company, but they are honestly holding him back.

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2 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I think deep down the WWE would prefer if Mauro just quit at this point. They don’t seem to care for him, and looking at the responses here, the fans don’t either.

Once again, you can't take people's opinions about Mauro on here and think that's how all fans think. Mauro is overwhelmingly loved by most fans and wrestlers. DVDVR is the smallest of sample sizes.

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21 hours ago, AxB said:

At the show I was at in Friday, A-Kid managed to make himself the biggest heel in the building through the simple medium of entrance music. We're all standing there, waiting for him to come out, and then we hear it, booming over the PA system:

"Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort" BOOOOOOOOooooooo!

Did the face come out to this?

 

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7 minutes ago, caley said:

When WWE randomly took Tom Phillips off TV, I wondered if he was being held as a back-up in case the strain of weekly live WWE (and presumably eventually travel) was too much for Renallo.  

I know only five people watch it, but isn’t Tom Phillips commentating NXT UK?

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I'm not entirely sure why NXT UK exists. It was created as counter programming to World of Sport 2019 (which was basically dead on arrival anyway), didn't get a UK tv deal at launch and became a WWE Network exclusive, and still is. BT Sport's 2020 WWE deal is just for RAW and Smackdown. And most UK fans (of UK wrestling, which is the minority of UK fans) would rather see, say, Walter vs Devlin in OTT or Progress than in NXT UK (unless it's on a Takeover).

Kind of feels more like WWE's UK investment is more to do with a power play to strangle the life out of the UK indies, than it is to actually have an arm of the company that generates profit.

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5 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Reported in the overnight but Mauro is expected to miss the NXT show tonight

(I hate bringing this back up since I so wanna ship Big Dave and Dana but here we are)

Graves is in Pittsburgh with his kids having Thanksgiving at his parent's today which is why he hasn't tweeted any responses today.  Crazy Mauro would miss a ppv and a live show though over that tweet.  I feel there has to be more to it. 

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3 minutes ago, AxB said:

Kind of feels more like WWE's UK investment is more to do with a power play to strangle the life out of the UK indies

I mean, yeah. That was always fairly obvious, wasn't it? I think NXT (US) originally existed for that reason, which is why you had WWE go on a talent hoarding spree starting a few years ago. It only officially became a proper brand when some indie guys/New Japan guys (+ Cody) decided to open their own promotion instead of bolster NXT.

1 minute ago, paintedbynumbers said:

Graves is in Pittsburgh with his kids having Thanksgiving at his parent's today which is why he hasn't tweeted any responses today.  Crazy Mauro would miss a ppv and a live show though over that tweet.  I feel there has to be more to it. 

Graves "apologized" today on that stupid podcast WWE has him hosting.

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1 minute ago, Casey said:

I mean, yeah. That was always fairly obvious, wasn't it? I think NXT (US) originally existed for that reason, which is why you had WWE go on a talent hoarding spree starting a few years ago. It only officially became a proper brand when some indie guys/New Japan guys (+ Cody) decided to open their own promotion instead of bolster NXT.

Graves "apologized" today on that stupid podcast WWE has him hosting.

it was forced

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23 hours ago, Yo-Yo's Roomie said:

I remember that promo Reigns cut about how he had his throat slit from ear to ear in prison being pretty good. Guy came off as legit scary in that instance.

“I almost got murdered in prison, why the hell would I be afraid of a match with The Undertaker?”

This is actually a significant moment in my fan development. Both the incongruity of how him being an enduring survivor of a terrible life was supposed to get us to boo him (which crystallized my “Vince’s idea of heroism is backwards” thesis) and the disappointment of getting such a great tease of maybe somebody finally being not afraid of The Undertaker’s shtick  only to have him be afraid of UT’s shtick and get squashed. Which made UT as tiresome for me as Hogan or HHH for the same reason.

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6 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

Do we really think the American people want 100,000 wrestlers thrown off the contracts they signed with Vince McMahon? The answer is not Independent Wrestling For All. The answer is Independent Wrestling For All Who Want It.

$1,000 worth of Global Force gold per month for every man and woman.

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1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I know only five people watch it, but isn’t Tom Phillips commentating NXT UK?

He does

55 minutes ago, AxB said:

I'm not entirely sure why NXT UK exists. It was created as counter programming to World of Sport 2019 (which was basically dead on arrival anyway), didn't get a UK tv deal at launch and became a WWE Network exclusive, and still is. BT Sport's 2020 WWE deal is just for RAW and Smackdown. And most UK fans (of UK wrestling, which is the minority of UK fans) would rather see, say, Walter vs Devlin in OTT or Progress than in NXT UK (unless it's on a Takeover).

Kind of feels more like WWE's UK investment is more to do with a power play to strangle the life out of the UK indies, than it is to actually have an arm of the company that generates profit.

 It exists because HHH wants it to exist. He wants to spread the brand globally. This has been known for years as a goal of his. 

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12 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

*entire ROH roster joins Yang Gang*

Yeah, but does Stella Grey REALLY deserve to make $12,000 worth of Global Force gold a year? Does a grocery store worker deserve it more????

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