HarryArchieGus Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Casey said: He started a fight, in public, while drunk, infront of his boss with an announcer. If he's not fired, something needs to be done to set a precedent. I'm not sure we know enough to suggest Havoc will be fired. Khan, during his media scrum, laughed it off. That might've been for the public as the questions all seemed kayfabed (at least the beginning), but regardless I don't think we know enough to suggest a firing. I don't think Havoc is as bad as most, but he desperately needs a new look. He looks like a generic forgettable 'garbage' wrestler. Watching him I have a feeling he's got more than he shows in these 'hardcore' bouts. Edited November 10, 2019 by HarryArchieGus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Seriously. Death match tough guy Jimmy Havoc getting chumped out by a commentator really undercuts the notion that he's a threat. I mean, in all honesty, the only real threat from a good portion of the death match guys after 1999 is how much pain and punishment they'd be willing to subject themselves to. A lot of them just look like normal guys. Obviously there are exceptions, one of which is not Jimmy Havoc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I just found out that Dakota Kai and Shayna Baszler are dating. That's an awesome couple right there. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Casey said: I just found out that Dakota Kai and Shayna Baszler are dating. That's an awesome couple right there. There's a lot of "Settle Down" posts coming with this discovery. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 19 hours ago, MapRef41N93W said: Watching Jimmy Havoc wrestle undercuts the notion that he's a threat. Looking at a picture of Jimmy Havoc undercuts the notion that he's a threat. The name "Jimmy Havoc" undercuts the notion that he's a threat. The entrance and attire is cool but then he’s in the ring with crappy jeans no shirt and badly thinning hair it just looks terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 19 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Seriously. Death match tough guy Jimmy Havoc getting chumped out by a commentator really undercuts the notion that he's a threat. Really, imagine a top guy in WWE getting his ass kicked by an announcer? Seriously! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) @ZartanHavoc does wear a shirt. An unstylishly cut tank top. Yeah, the black jeans into those kickpad boots is.... Havoc's look is so bad that it's a bit hilarious. Edited November 11, 2019 by HarryArchieGus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 hours ago, nate said: I occasionally get the Jimmys Havoc and Rave mixed up in my head, sight unseen. 45 is going to hit hard as a mug. Jimmy Rave is the guy who was the single wisest use of tax dollars in Gahnain history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Iiconics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil4126 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: There's a lot of "Settle Down" posts coming with this discovery. Ill show myself out to settle down 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mattdangerously Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Guys, I think it was Peyton Royce's birthday on Sunday. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 He’s so awkward, even in thumbnail form. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Casey said: I just found out that Dakota Kai and Shayna Baszler are dating. That's an awesome couple right there. Was wondering about that. I recall something about hints online on them being a couple a bit back but wasn't sure. Good for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said: I don't think Havoc is as bad as most, but he desperately needs a new look. He looks like a generic forgettable 'garbage' wrestler. Watching him I have a feeling he's got more than he shows in these 'hardcore' bouts. I bet you his look would improve greatly if he went through a Mr. JL like luchador transformation, or better yet a Super Dragon/Excalibur transformation. In fact a lot of short guys who are on the uglier side of wrestling have benefited wearing a top, and mask. Heck, Chikara trained, and employed skinny geeks, to then put them under masks, and bodysuits. Edited November 11, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Havoc would be best served at this point to be a super-evil manager who can take bumps when needed. I like his death match stuff but when he does a regular match in AEW the crowd isn't as into it even if he's good. And I'm not sure where he had the fight with Excalibur but would love to read more about it (F4W wasn't much help) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltzing Pot Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 23 hours ago, nate said: I occasionally get the Jimmys Havoc and Rave mixed up in my head, sight unseen. 45 is going to hit hard as a mug. It's gonna suck being 45 and not knowing anything about shrimp cocktail, as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: I bet you his look would improve greatly if he went through a Mr. JL like luchador transformation, or better yet a Super Dragon/Excalibur transformation. In fact a lot of short guys who are on the uglier side of wrestling have benefited wearing a top, and mask. Heck, Chikara trained, and employed skinny geeks, to then put them under masks, and bodysuits. This might be a good idea for JImmy. There are a ton of guys with poor facials that I think would benefit greatly from covering up. Actually, of all ppl, I keep thinking Bullet Club member Taiji Ishimori would benefit from a hood. I say Ishimiori because he seems like such a nerd when he tries to show emotion with his facials. There are a lot of guys like this. But yeah, solid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 He can still learn. Christopher Daniels was a ten+ year vet before he started facially emoting during matches. I used to say how Curry Man's mask was more animated than Daniels' actual face. Then all of a sudden he started doing comedy promos with Kaz and totally changed his in-ring work style. Less robotic, more storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Meltzing Pot said: It's gonna suck being 45 and not knowing anything about shrimp cocktail, as well. What the fuck, man??! WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?!??! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 13 hours ago, sabremike said: Really, imagine a top guy in WWE getting his ass kicked by an announcer? Seriously! That was funny too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Technico Support Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, NikoBaltimore said: Havoc would be best served at this point to be a super-evil manager who can take bumps when needed. I like his death match stuff but when he does a regular match in AEW the crowd isn't as into it even if he's good. And I'm not sure where he had the fight with Excalibur but would love to read more about it (F4W wasn't much help) First I heard of the fight was on this board (been busy for a few days), so I googled some news stories. Apparently Havoc took a swing, Excalibur choked him out. Havoc came to, went after him again, landed a punch. Excalibur apparently met him outside later to work it out and Havoc threw his cell phone at him (he missed and it hit a wall). So Havoc fights like a sad little middle aged edgelord, too. I say let him go. Excalibur is the company's best commentator. Havoc is less necessary than Shawn Spears and that says a lot. Edited November 11, 2019 by Technico Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I kind of enjoy Shawn Spears. Sure, Tully is wasted on him and he shouldn't be on PPV except for when they need bodies for multi-man matches, but he's a perfectly enjoyable low-card TV worker. I also enjoy the Dark Order, though, so fuck if I know whom Jimmy Havoc is less necessary than. Actually, maybe Spears isn't the Mendoza line of the company - Havoc is actually the Mendoza line of the company. Edited November 11, 2019 by Smelly McUgly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: I kind of enjoy Shawn Spears. Sure, Tully is wasted on him and he shouldn't be on PPV except for when they need bodies for multi-man matches, but he's a perfectly enjoyable low-card TV worker. I also enjoy the Dark Order, though, so fuck if I know whom Jimmy Havoc is less necessary than. Actually, maybe Spears isn't the Mendoza line of the company - Havoc is actually the Mendoza line of the company. He's married to Peyton Royce so quite frankly he's the biggest winner in the entire promotion. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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