Rehabilitated Rick Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I think we have seen, even in MMA fights, that the most experienced fighters screw up their strategies and get caught from the bell. There is more juice in Kofi acknowledging that, moving to Raw and redeeming himself, than being completely decimated for 10 minutes before being F-5'd 10 times. Of course I have no confidence that creative will do any kind of follow-up worthy of his story and fully expect him to transition back into mid-card New Day theatrics. It is what it is. The optics of Lesnar and Cain in a WWE ring must have made Dana's head explode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I wish Punk would have gotten that job just to see him take a steaming dump on Brock and Cain in week one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: It amuses me that a guy with a BROWN POWER tattoo ended up the headliner of the first Fox show. (technically it's Brown Pride, which is slightly less menacing) Fortunately Smackdown is not in the same media family as MTV, so there won't be a "How Far is Tattoo Far" match between Cain and Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Whoops. And I'm not even drinking tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, The Natural said: kinda tells you what you need to know about heavyweight boxing in 2019 that this will be overshadowed pretty quickly. Although i'm readying myself for a Cain Velasquez/Andy Ruiz tag team in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: There is more juice in Kofi acknowledging that, moving to Raw and redeeming himself So basically you have to put him over a bunch of guys now? Er, THEY JUST DID THAT! Seems inefficient tbh. And unlikely. Edited October 5, 2019 by ComingToAmerica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Curt McGirt said: Whoops. And I'm not even drinking tonight... There's your first mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said: So basically you have to put him over a bunch of guys now? Seems inefficient tbh. And unlikely. Well I have a feeling as amazing as this sounds but RAW is going to be a C level show. It will be interesting to see the type of people who move to RAW and off the main network. I mean we know Becky will off the RAW brand based on tonight. Edited October 5, 2019 by hammerva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Honestly dug the show a good deal until that bs with Kofi/Brock. Its kind of exactly what I feared with Kofi getting squashed with ease. I don't really follow MMA much so Cain/Brock doesn't have a ton of my interest. Even with that bs I enjoyed the show. The opening segment with Becky, Corbin, & Rock was great. The 4HW tag was good. Dug the FFH segment and later Fiend attack. Ladder match was a fun garbage match with the right winner and didn't go super long. Roman/Rowan was super fun. Loved Ali getting powerbombed into Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Kofi is once again proof that you should never under any circumstances ever get over on your own accord in this company. They bided their time, and then boom. Edited October 5, 2019 by Curt McGirt 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: kinda tells you what you need to know about heavyweight boxing in 2019 that this will be overshadowed pretty quickly. Yeah, I hit Google as soon as he jumped the barricade. Not sure if that says more about me or boxing. At least he looked more impressive visually than Cain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 He's very tall. 6'9" boxing height vs 6'1" for Cain. Anyway, New Day is being split up. Kofi to RAW, Big E stays on Smackdown, Xavier to NXT/205 Live because WWE hates money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Saw the first segment and skipped to the end. Tempted as it may be to bitch about it or bring up AEW I think more than anything I'm just glad he didn't lose the title to Orton. I don't like Bork but this is the direction they're going and it makes storyline sense. But Kofi had a helluva run and it doesn't take anything away from the last few months he's had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, hammerva said: Well I have a feeling as amazing as this sounds but RAW is going to be a C level show. It will be interesting to see the type of people who move to RAW and off the main network. I mean we know Becky will off the RAW brand based on tonight. Oh great, so Kofi's going to take an entire brand to C level so he can 'redeem' himself. Some lit fantasy booking going on here. Okay I'm being a dick, but there's no point of pushing someone if you're going to just chump them out. People are trying to justify the unjustifiable. There were ways of protecting him, and thus protecting the guys he beat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 UFC has now created more WWE stars than NXT has. Kofi had one of the worst title reigns in history. In a different era the belt would have been taken off him five months ago. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Kofi is once again proof that you should never under any circumstances ever get over on your own accord in this company. A six month title reign is pretty strong, though? EDIT: I will say, if they were going to go with the flash F-5, I wish Kofi would've been mid-wind up for Trouble in Paradise instead of just kinda jumping at him. Like, both of them just going for broke. Edited October 5, 2019 by steve 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Hagan said: UFC has now created more WWE stars than NXT has. Kofi had one of the worst title reigns in history. In a different era the belt would have been taken off him five months ago. Not like they tried very damn hard in either case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Yeah, I was being a bit facetious there for the sake of the old adage. It's just funny, they couldn't even give him a competitive squash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The key thing when giving a midcarder a run like that is ensuring they're a bigger deal after you take the belt off them than they were before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said: Oh great, so Kofi's going to take an entire brand to C level so he can 'redeem' himself. Some lit fantasy booking going on here. Okay I'm being a dick, but there's no point of pushing someone if you're going to just chump them out. People are trying to justify the unjustifiable. There were ways of protecting him, and thus protecting the guys he beat. I am not really trying to justify the unjustifiable. It was complete bullshit. But it is kind of like the story about the man who becomes friends with a snake and then is surprised that the snake bit the person and the snake responds with "I am a snake what did you expect". That is kind of how I saw this whole thing. They booked it like most people thought they would book it as bullshit as it really was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Yeah, I hit Google as soon as he jumped the barricade. Not sure if that says more about me or boxing. At least he looked more impressive visually than Cain. yeah, the thing with Fury is that he's more known than all the Russian/Soviet Bloc HWs who only fought in Germany. But also since this is boxing, Fury's big win came nearly 3 years ago, and was followed up by him putting on a bunch of weight, spraining his ankle, getting dinged for using cocaine, and he didn't fight between November 2015 and June 2018. Then once he got a fight in the US, it was a draw against Wilder that people felt Fury won. So technically Fury doesn't hold any of the HW titles, but he also never lost any of his titles in the ring.. the champions are Deontay Wilder (WBC) and Andy Ruiz (IBF/WBO/WBA Super). That being said, Fury would mean a lot more if the show was in a more British place than Los Angeles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) One thing is for sure, if Seth was in Kofi's position, that match was going a little longer than 7 seconds or whatever. Kofi's 6-month run was a Gold Watch reign, the conclusion is proof of that. He was never booked as the guy. He was a placeholder until the FOX move. Edited October 5, 2019 by Rehabilitated Rick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: He was never booked as the guy. I think we knew that when he started rehashing ten year old feuds with Dolph and Randy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Reminder that they’re two days out from HIAC and have three matches booked. Three. On a more positive note, I thought it was nice having the opening segment about Becky and the opening tag match giving Charlotte spotlight. They’ve both been central in Fox’s advertising/promotion so it felt fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ryan said: Not like they tried very damn hard in either case. Eh, I’m not gonna let Kofi off the hook here. He had spots to shine and the matches didn’t really deliver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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