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The thing about "ratings warz" is that it is an outdated concept that was kind of a dumb dick waving contest in the first place. I guess you could make an argument that in the 90's, the more people that watched your show, the more people might buy your PPV's.  WCW went out of business in part because they were obsessed by the ratings which at the end of the day meant nothing.

Move that to today, it's completely irrelevant except for message board fodder. WWE has two masters they have to satisfy by delivering ratings, and there could be 20 other companies running TV and that would not matter one bit. The money they have gotten from Fox and USA has basically rendered the network an afterthought at this point. When AEW's contract comes due, nobody will want to hear that they beat NXT this many weeks in a row, they will want to know what they delivered.

And based on all this I really think that the TNA move to Mondays is one of the underrated all time dumb business decisions in wrestling history.

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9 minutes ago, goodhelmet said:

What did Tyson Fury say? I have no idea. 

A lot.

He has made anti-Semitic comments and trans-phobic comments but the one that got the most attention was equating homosexuality with pedophilia

(He also tried to hand wave it away by saying that because he is a celebrity, the heightened media scrutiny causes his words to be taken out of context)

EDIT - Oh and I forgot him saying he would kill his sister if she slept around

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I’ll spoiler the Fury quotes...

  • There are these girls who want to open their legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry. But they are looked upon as rubbish in our community. We don’t do stuff like that. If I had a sister who did that … I’d hang her. She would bring disgrace on the family. It is a very, very bad thing to do. We don’t do that. Women have to be pure and respectful.”
  • I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief.”
  • There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.”
  • “It’s like you’re a freak of nature if you’re normal. You’re the odd one out — nobody else. What’s normal? I’ll just get myself changed into a woman. That’s normal, isn’t it? Today call myself Tysina or something like that, put a wig on. I don’t think it’s normal. I think they’re freaks of nature. I think it’ll be perfectly normal in the next 10 years to have sexual relationships with your animals at home — you know, your pets, your cats and dogs and all that — so that will be legal.”

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1 hour ago, For Great Justice said:

New Ducktales is great. Kid loves it.

New(ish) Turtles is okay after a rough start. Trans-Dimensional Turtles (episode where they interact with their early 90’s counterparts) is one of the best pieces of fan service in years, though. They nailed it.

New Ducktales is better than any wrestling in 2019.

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1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I’ll spoiler the Fury quotes...

 

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  • There are these girls who want to open their legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry. But they are looked upon as rubbish in our community. We don’t do stuff like that. If I had a sister who did that … I’d hang her. She would bring disgrace on the family. It is a very, very bad thing to do. We don’t do that. Women have to be pure and respectful.”
  • I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief.”
  • There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.”
  • “It’s like you’re a freak of nature if you’re normal. You’re the odd one out — nobody else. What’s normal? I’ll just get myself changed into a woman. That’s normal, isn’t it? Today call myself Tysina or something like that, put a wig on. I don’t think it’s normal. I think they’re freaks of nature. I think it’ll be perfectly normal in the next 10 years to have sexual relationships with your animals at home — you know, your pets, your cats and dogs and all that — so that will be legal.”

 

Fuuuuccckkkk

This dude's an asshole... but Be A Star!!!!

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4 hours ago, Matt D said:

It's ok. They make decent use of the extended Muppet characters. It feels like they do the same three episodes (Piggy is a selfish brat, Kermit doesn't want to admit a shortcoming, Animal is out of control) over and over though. The songs are so unmemorable that now I'm wondering if there are songs. There are worse shows for your toddler to be into. 

Have they done another episode yet where Gonzo loses Camilla and just wails CAMILLLLLLAAAAAAA for like the whole thirty minutes?

Also, does he still sexually harass Miss Piggy every two minutes before Piggy retaliates with physical violence?

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1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I’ll spoiler the Fury quotes...

 

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  • There are these girls who want to open their legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry. But they are looked upon as rubbish in our community. We don’t do stuff like that. If I had a sister who did that … I’d hang her. She would bring disgrace on the family. It is a very, very bad thing to do. We don’t do that. Women have to be pure and respectful.”
  • I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief.”
  • There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.”
  • “It’s like you’re a freak of nature if you’re normal. You’re the odd one out — nobody else. What’s normal? I’ll just get myself changed into a woman. That’s normal, isn’t it? Today call myself Tysina or something like that, put a wig on. I don’t think it’s normal. I think they’re freaks of nature. I think it’ll be perfectly normal in the next 10 years to have sexual relationships with your animals at home — you know, your pets, your cats and dogs and all that — so that will be legal.”

 

What a lovely human being. I'm glad to see that Fury said nothing to change my opinion that he needs his ass kicked early and often.

1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I’ll spoiler the Fury quotes...

 

  Hide contents

 

  • There are these girls who want to open their legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry. But they are looked upon as rubbish in our community. We don’t do stuff like that. If I had a sister who did that … I’d hang her. She would bring disgrace on the family. It is a very, very bad thing to do. We don’t do that. Women have to be pure and respectful.”
  • I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief.”
  • There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.”
  • “It’s like you’re a freak of nature if you’re normal. You’re the odd one out — nobody else. What’s normal? I’ll just get myself changed into a woman. That’s normal, isn’t it? Today call myself Tysina or something like that, put a wig on. I don’t think it’s normal. I think they’re freaks of nature. I think it’ll be perfectly normal in the next 10 years to have sexual relationships with your animals at home — you know, your pets, your cats and dogs and all that — so that will be legal.”

 

 

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5 hours ago, Log said:

My son was asking for "Yellow Wrestling" the other day.  Couldn't figure out what he meant.  Finally realized he was talking about NXT NJPW.

I suck.

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3 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I’ll spoiler the Fury quotes...

 

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  • There are these girls who want to open their legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry. But they are looked upon as rubbish in our community. We don’t do stuff like that. If I had a sister who did that … I’d hang her. She would bring disgrace on the family. It is a very, very bad thing to do. We don’t do that. Women have to be pure and respectful.”
  • I believe a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back. That’s my personal belief.”
  • There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia.”
  • “It’s like you’re a freak of nature if you’re normal. You’re the odd one out — nobody else. What’s normal? I’ll just get myself changed into a woman. That’s normal, isn’t it? Today call myself Tysina or something like that, put a wig on. I don’t think it’s normal. I think they’re freaks of nature. I think it’ll be perfectly normal in the next 10 years to have sexual relationships with your animals at home — you know, your pets, your cats and dogs and all that — so that will be legal.”

 

Are they running Fury vs Strawman in Saudia Arabia? 

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10 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:

Well, the last time we had a real rivalry between companies, Twitter and Facebook didn't exist. I bet 1997 wrestling Twitter would've been every bit as bad or worse.

Hell, when TNA tried going head to head, even that got absurd.

Even beyond the rivalry between companies, it isn;t even just "Twitter and Facebook" didn't exist in 1997...TiVo (and thus, DVRs) didn't exist in 1997 period. You had to choose- Raw or Nitro, knowing you're not going to get to see the other one (unless you had a picture-in-picture TV). 

Now, though, DVRs are commonplace. You don't have to choose AEW or NXT. Just DVR one and watch the other live. It's not some big battle for people. (Heck, it's surprising the DVR-adjusted ratings for AEW/NXT haven't been released and just the immediate numbers get cared about.) 

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1 minute ago, SorceressKnight said:

Even beyond the rivalry between companies, it isn;t even just "Twitter and Facebook" didn't exist in 1997...TiVo (and thus, DVRs) didn't exist in 1997 period. You had to choose- Raw or Nitro, knowing you're not going to get to see the other one (unless you had a picture-in-picture TV). 

Now, though, DVRs are commonplace. You don't have to choose AEW or NXT. Just DVR one and watch the other live. It's not some big battle for people. (Heck, it's surprising the DVR-adjusted ratings for AEW/NXT haven't been released and just the immediate numbers get cared about.) 

Guys, it was just announced that NXT will have a recap of Finn’s turn starting at 7 just before NXT. The “Ratingz War” is real. You can’t escape the crossfire.

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3 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

Guys, it was just announced that NXT will have a recap of Finn’s turn starting at 7 just before NXT. The “Ratingz War” is real. You can’t escape the crossfire.

Well, that changes everything! I have to watch NXT live now on TV and...

...watch AEW on my second TV in my living room. Or on my tablet. Or my smartphone. Or my laptop. Or DVR it. Or hell, just wait until the 10:00 replay. 

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