The Natural Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Casey said: Fightful is saying the ending went off exactly how Vince wanted and according to one of the sources “laughed off the crowd reaction”. If that is true then Vince does not know the difference between good carny and bad carny. X-Pac Heat is not good heat; it's bad heat. Edited October 7, 2019 by J.T. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casey said: Fightful is saying the ending went off exactly how Vince wanted and according to one of the sources “laughed off the crowd reaction”. PWInsider is saying differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casey said: Fightful is saying the ending went off exactly how Vince wanted and according to one of the sources “laughed off the crowd reaction”. Way to go pissing off your customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Basically, this finish tonight is what you can do to set up the Hell in a Cell match. The whole point of Hell in a Cell is like there's no escape, or that sledgehammers and weapons are legal. When has a Hell in a Cell match ever been stopped due to excessive weapons or carnage? I guess other than the two instances mentioned here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: PWInsider is saying differently. Post it, I haven’t seen what they’re saying about it. All I’ve seen is tweets and Reddit stuff about the event while I’m at work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Natural said: 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Casey said: Post it, I haven’t seen what they’re saying about it. All I’ve seen is tweets and Reddit stuff about the event while I’m at work. https://www.pwinsider.com/article/130206/wwe-hell-in-a-cell-main-event-notes.html?p=1 Quote The idea behind the Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt finish was that the referee officially stopped the match after Rollins smashed Wyatt with a sledgehammer as he lay under a pile of weapons. While it was certainly plausible why someone would think the match ended with Rollins disqualified, we are told the official idea is that the bout was stopped. The aftermath of the match, which saw the two battle inside the Cell bathed in red light, the non-finish and Bray Wyatt putting Seth Rollins in a Mandible Claw on the floor as fake blood poured from his mouth, led to loud chants of "restart the match", "AEW", "Refund" and "Bullsh**." from the fans in Sacramento. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, BobbyWhioux said: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Is there really a difference between a No Contest or DQ in this type of match? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Besides there being a winner? Probably not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 though full credit to WWE, I thought I'd be more bummed about Evil Bayley losing and that can't even get a look-in in my brain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Casey said: Besides there being a winner? Probably not. So a No Contest in this type of match is basically worse because this is the one kind of match where there almost has to be a winner. Sort of like AJ Styles and Nakamura ending in a double countout last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 There's no way WWE would laugh at that reaction, for no other reason than someone backstage must know by now Rollins can't handle rejection from the crowd. Like how is it possible for anyone to think The Fiend can be defeated? Rollins was seconds away from pulling out a sawed-off 12 gauge because chairs, ladders, toolboxes, and sledgehammers didn't work. The Fiend still left Rollins in a bloody heap at the end. Good luck with figuring out what takes him down now. What's worse is you can see what they were trying to do. That Rollins is rotten at his core, and The Fiend wants to show how rotten Rollins is, that he shouldn't be forgiven for being such a jerk for all these years. Good stuff. So if they insisted on having the match with Rollins still being champ, have Rollins show how depraved he is, let The Fiend beat Rollins bloody, then he disappears into a red mist without going for the pin. Rollins is left with a bruised body and a broken mind. And The Fiend still keeps messing with him. They got every step of it wrong. We got. . .THAT. That's a tough pill to take. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Casey said: Fightful is saying the ending went off exactly how Vince wanted and according to one of the sources “laughed off the crowd reaction”. "I'm not mad, I'm actually very calm. I meant to do that!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BobbyWhioux said: so how long before we see Asuka and Kairi throwing the women's tag belts in the trash on an episode of AEW Dynamite Not soon enough 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Craig H said: The giant, cartoonishly big mallet that looked like a box on a stick. FTFY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Casey said: Besides there being a winner? Probably not. I am completely baffled by the concept of a No DQ match ending by ref stoppage and being thrown out.. I suppose the booking achieved its desired effect.. Edited October 7, 2019 by J.T. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I blame the fans. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Trying to think of a show's main event ending on such a negative crowd reaction as this did. Really loud boos, clear chants of bullshit, refund back and AEW. Edited October 7, 2019 by The Natural 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, OctopusCinema said: I blame the fans. I blame the fans AND Seth Rollins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocklock Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Natural said: Trying to think of a show's main event ending on such a negative crowd reaction as this did. Really loud boos, clear chants of bullshit, refund back and AEW. Royal Rumble 2015 is up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Craig H said: The rest of the show was whatever. I just can't believe that main event. Easily one of the worst things I've seen in awhile. They killed Bray and Seth. And Pritchard can say some bullshit like Bray doesn't need the title and that can be their mindset or whatever the fuck, but they're full of shit. That's the thing. I 100% agree that the Fiend gimmick does not need a title in order to be over. My problem is how you can book Seth vs. Fiend in a gimmick match where the whole point is to have a decisive winner and then kill them both by booking a No Contest? That makes zero sense from a booking perspective or from a mat psychology perspective. It's the X-Pac Heat version of sending them home unhappy. It's the polar opposite of the NWO Hogan heel turn or the debut of CONTRA on MLW. I am almost tempted to DVR RAW on Monday Night since I'm working graveyard and will be passed out when it's on television, and see how they intend to clean this up and maybe that was the real objective of that shitshow of a PPV. Edited October 7, 2019 by J.T. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, J.T. said: That's the thing. I 100% agree that the Fiend gimmick does not need a title in order to be over. My problem is how you can book Seth vs. Fiend in a gimmick match where the whole point is to have a decisive winner and then kill them both by booking a No Contest? That makes zero sense from a booking perspective or from a mat psychology perspective. It's the X-Pac Heat version of sending them home unhappy. It's the polar opposite of the NWO Hogan heel turn. I am almost tempted to DVR RAW on Monday Night since I'm working graveyard and will be passed out when it's on television, and see how they intend to clean this up and maybe that was the real objective of that shitshow of a PPV. Well the WWE didn't have to immediately book Fiend in a title match. They could've had him go after Braun or whoever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: Well the WWE didn't have to immediately book Fiend in a title match. They could've had him go after Braun or whoever else. How do you transition the Fiend from one feud to another after one fucking title match? There is no gold in a feud with Braun unless the book intends to make yet another dumb decision and turn Braun heel. Edited October 7, 2019 by J.T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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