RIPPA Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 If reports are to be believed - Dusty Baker will be the Astros manager 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, RIPPA said: If reports are to be believed - Dusty Baker will be the Astros manager lol Verlander and Greinke are going to be shattering Cy Young's Innings Pitched record. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill S. Preston ESQ. Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Good too see Dusty Baker finally going to win that elusive title in 2020. Go Stros bay bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I can understand/forgive the Sox for looking to trade Mookie, the difference between offer and what the Player wants is... pronounced. (Sox offered 10/300. Betts wants 12/420, 420 Million that is, not 420.. oh you know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Mike Trout - 12 years, $426.5 million Bryce Harper - 13 years, $330 million Gerrit Cole - 9 years, $324 million Manny Machado - 10 years, $330 million When you are arguably the 2nd best player in baseball, you better damn well ask for 12 years, $420 million. At a minimum ask for more than what Harper or a starting pitcher got. The Sox leaking the offers is classic "THE BIG MEAN PLAYER WON'T TAKE ALL THIS MONEY WE ARE OFFERING! WE ARE THE TRUE VICTIMS!!!!" When you say you "forgive" the Red Sox, what you are doing is forgiving them for all the shitty other deals they made (David Price, Chris Sale, Dustin Pedroia, etc...) that have them now claiming poverty that they can't keep Mookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: Mike Trout - 12 years, $426.5 million Bryce Harper - 13 years, $330 million Gerrit Cole - 9 years, $324 million Manny Machado - 10 years, $330 million When you are arguably the 2nd best player in baseball, you better damn well ask for 12 years, $420 million. At a minimum ask for more than what Harper or a starting pitcher got. The Sox leaking the offers is classic "THE BIG MEAN PLAYER WON'T TAKE ALL THIS MONEY WE ARE OFFERING! WE ARE THE TRUE VICTIMS!!!!" When you say you "forgive" the Red Sox, what you are doing is forgiving them for all the shitty other deals they made (David Price, Chris Sale, Dustin Pedroia, etc...) that have them now claiming poverty that they can't keep Mookie "Arguably"? You know I respect your baseball IQ, who else would even be in the discussion? I can see Acuna getting there in a couple of years, but from my viewing of position players it pretty much comes down to: 1. Trout 2. Mookie 3. Everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, OSJ said: "Arguably"? You know I respect your baseball IQ, who else would even be in the discussion? I can see Acuna getting there in a couple of years, but from my viewing of position players it pretty much comes down to: 1. Trout 2. Mookie 3. Everyone else I am positive people would argue folks like Soto, Acuna, etc.. the ones who were real good for one or two seasons. I also give myself wiggle room because I am almost always convinced I am forgetting someone I tend to be very Meltzer-esqe with my qualifiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, RIPPA said: I am positive people would argue folks like Soto, Acuna, etc.. the ones who were real good for one or two seasons. I also give myself wiggle room because I am almost always convinced I am forgetting someone I tend to be very Meltzer-esqe with my qualifiers Probably for guys nearing FA, Lindor would be above Mookie because of his position. But point is - Mookie is a top 10 player, FAR more valuable than Harper. Rippa listed the stupid money of some lesser players (aside from Trout, obviously) are getting. What that points to is the Sox were dumb with money - especially on that Sale extension and the JD Martinez contract - when they KNEW Mookie was going to get paid soon. But hey! They HAD to NOT non-tender JBJ AND they just signed Mitch Moreland. Clearly Mookie is just a greedy bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Kris Bryant lost his grievance against the Cubs over service time - so he won't be a FA until after the 2021 season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Theo didn't break any rules so this was the longest, most obvious ruling. KB is probably as good as gone now. There's already rumors of a KB for Arenado swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Pirates trading Sterling Marte to the Diamondbacks for prospects and cash is unfortunately the most 1993 - 2020 Pirates thing possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 No - hiring Lloyd McClendon again would be the most Pirates thing possible 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, hammerva said: Pirates trading Sterling Marte to the Diamondbacks for prospects and cash is unfortunately the most 1993 - 2020 Pirates thing possible. I was hoping the Jays could've swung a trade for Marte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, RIPPA said: No - hiring Lloyd McClendon again would be the most Pirates thing possible Not Bobby Bonilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, EdA said: Probably for guys nearing FA, Lindor would be above Mookie because of his position. But point is - Mookie is a top 10 player, FAR more valuable than Harper. Rippa listed the stupid money of some lesser players (aside from Trout, obviously) are getting. What that points to is the Sox were dumb with money - especially on that Sale extension and the JD Martinez contract - when they KNEW Mookie was going to get paid soon. But hey! They HAD to NOT non-tender JBJ AND they just signed Mitch Moreland. Clearly Mookie is just a greedy bastard! When did the lovable underdogs turn into the Evil Empire V 2.0? Having watched the Sawx since the 1967 season, I find their metamorphosis strangely compelling regarding their rivals in pinstripes... 'Beware of fighting monsters for too long, lest ye become one..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, OSJ said: When did the lovable underdogs turn into the Evil Empire V 2.0? Having watched the Sawx since the 1967 season, I find their metamorphosis strangely compelling regarding their rivals in pinstripes... 'Beware of fighting monsters for too long, lest ye become one..." Are you confusing the Red Sox with the Cubs? The Sox were never the loveable underdog. I mean no one was thinking the were loveable underdogs against the Mets in 86 And it sure as fuck wasn't when Tom Yawkey didn't want to sign blacks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Absolute legend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 What a woman. May she RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Curtis Granderson has retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 2:00 PM, RIPPA said: Are you confusing the Red Sox with the Cubs? The Sox were never the loveable underdog. I mean no one was thinking the were loveable underdogs against the Mets in 86 And it sure as fuck wasn't when Tom Yawkey didn't want to sign blacks 1967-1975 and thereabouts. We had such hopes for Tony Conigliaro, Boomer Scott, Yaz, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, OSJ said: 1967-1975 and thereabouts. We had such hopes for Tony Conigliaro, Boomer Scott, Yaz, etc. You mean Yaz didn't win a ring when Carlton Fisk hit that HR Weird... MLB sure as fuck wants you to believe that 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, RIPPA said: You mean Yaz didn't win a ring when Carlton Fisk hit that HR Weird... MLB sure as fuck wants you to believe that I realize that it was before your time, but the Yankees were the evil empire and the Sawx were perhaps the equivalent of the 1990s Braves, a team that on paper looked to be able to forge a dynasty, but almost always fell short. Quite frankly, if they had a better player than Yaz in the field and at the bat they might have done better. Yaz is one of the most over-rated players to ever play the game. He was pretty damn sub-par for all of about four years of his career. Darrell Evans get knocked for having the same sort of career despite having played a more difficult position for much of his career. Yaz isn't the worst guy in the HOF, but he'd damn sure make the 2020 version of "Throw the Rascals Out" should I get bored and decide to do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Oh stop with the Evil Empire nonsense. Though I guess I should be thankful you didn't call them the Bankees In the time span you picked - the Red Sox went to 2 World Series. They lost both but still made it. They also had 2 seconds. In the same span the Yankees went to.... zero World Series. The Yanks finished 2nd twice and that was it. No one bitched about how Evil the Yanks were when George was drunkenly spending his money and the Yanks won shit. They only got pissy after 1996 If you want to hate the Yanks because they won a bunch of World Series pre-1964 okay but that doesn't mean that instantly made the Red Sox "loveable losers" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'm laughing so hard at this. Seriously, what in the fuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Oh stop with the Evil Empire nonsense. Though I guess I should be thankful you didn't call them the Bankees In the time span you picked - the Red Sox went to 2 World Series. They lost both but still made it. They also had 2 seconds. In the same span the Yankees went to.... zero World Series. The Yanks finished 2nd twice and that was it. No one bitched about how Evil the Yanks were when George was drunkenly spending his money and the Yanks won shit. They only got pissy after 1996 If you want to hate the Yanks because they won a bunch of World Series pre-1964 okay but that doesn't mean that instantly made the Red Sox "loveable losers" I am and have always been a Braves fan, which makes the Yankees and Dodgers automatically hateful. I had to grow up with a bunch of other kids wearing #7 on their jackets. I remained a loyal supporter of the Holy Trinity of Mathews, Aaron, and Adcock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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