Elsalvajeloco Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Craig H said: Those guys are Matt and Jeff Hardy. So yeah, fuck those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Raziel said: The WCW Patriots were just fine. Harlem Heat 2000 had Norris, so that automatically puts them ahead anyway. I suppose, but come on. I admit Curtis Thompson was fine. Todd Champion was absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MORELOCK said: I know that's something you've talked about dealing with a lot on this board and in these kinds of discussions, and I am sorry, but I am legitimately dumbfounded here. Your entire post dismissed what I had to say. You invalidated everything I said in an attempt of promoting feminism while disregarding me being a woman, and specifically a Black woman, because you seem to think my points are lesser than. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, cool arrow said: I suppose, but come on. I admit Curtis Thompson was fine. Todd Champion was absolutely not. Man WCW had trying to find something to do with Champion since his debut in 86 James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 going back to the Naomi convo, this bummed me out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, cool arrow said: I don't remember Ahmed getting heat so much for hurting other guys as hurting himself, but that was all a long time ago and who wants to remember Ahmed Johnson anyway? Fun Ahmed Johnson fact. Bill Watts wanted to call him "Buck Johnson" when he (Watts) was working with Vince in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, cool arrow said: I suppose, but come on. I admit Curtis Thompson was fine. Todd Champion was absolutely not. Dave nicknamed him Clumsy Fuck Todd Champion in the Observer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Infinit said: With all due respect, the Kardashians would not be where they are today if it weren't for their cosmetic surgeons and Kim's sex tape lol. Now back to pro wres. This is gonna be a historic week...who else is excited??? No one. More Kardashian/Jenner talk! Maybe tie it into reparations, EBT and Immigration issues! Can the Fiend fix the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Regal wondered out loud why Todd Champion was smiling all the time: "Even when he's hurt, or when he's angry, he's smiling. Did someone wedge a coat hanger inside his mouth, as a prank?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ryan said: No one. More Kardashian/Jenner talk! Maybe tie it into reparations, EBT and Immigration issues! Can the Fiend fix the country? I know you think you are helping but you're not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I am definitely not helping. Less than 12 hours til closing time. Maybe drag the non-wrestling/any forums here talk to another website entirely. Rippa will live up to his nickname of Ripper otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 5:15 AM, LoneWolf&Subs said: Oh I’m definitely looking at one company with a huge stink eye. That being the one employing a “Bully”. WWE has run it in the past though, but New Japan’s recent splitting off from ROH for these tours might’ve created vendetta that can’t be ignored. I'd like to think ROH would never do something like that simply because it's Ring of Honor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Considering who owns them I am almost shocked they wouldn't do it constantly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Sucks there isn't a MS based wrestler in the big leagues yet. But the MS indie scene has a lot of good to great talent. Guys like Nate Moss-Works mostly for SWA now. Their TV show is on FITE app now. Lukas Frost-See above. Barry Wolf-Works all over. Teams with Frost in SWA. Rey Fury-Dude is going all over the place now. I am betting by 2022 he is in NXT or some place similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Tromatagon said: I'm not a trained wrestler, but I don't think you should have to apologize for someone landing wrong and dislocating their elbow or whatever it was, it was pretty fucking gross looking, I remember that. But I don't remember the move that did it now - I know at the time it seemed like she landed wrong instead of getting thrown wrong? But I'm not trained and don't know shit so I can be 100% wrong there, but throwing shade on twitter about it always feels like a punk move. Handle that shit in the back. kinda been covered already, but i think it's more of a respect thing. more of a "i'm sorry that happened to you" than "i'm sorry i did that to you" moment. if you're the wrestling on the giving end, you will likely have to work with this person (or one of their close friends) so this is the first step to putting it behind everyone and nobody holding grudges. as to your second point, completely agree. don't air your dirty laundry for the world to see. unfortunately, that's not the world we live in anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Going back to the "performance art" question with Jordynne Grace...the weird thing is, even as wrestling changes to that viewpoint, we haven't seen a promotion completely steer into the skid there. Give every person who goes to the show a voting card, and then run the matches similarly to pairs figure skating: The two/four workers are seen as a team working their match. The matches are ranked by the crowd vote, and at the end of the show the winning "match" is announced and given the win. This seems absurd- but it's the natural end of a "performance art"-based wrestling. If it's not able to go that far, it's inherently saying "the role you play does matter and being able to make people believe in your role matters." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said: Going back to the "performance art" question with Jordynne Grace...the weird thing is, even as wrestling changes to that viewpoint, we haven't seen a promotion completely steer into the skid there. Give every person who goes to the show a voting card, and then run the matches similarly to pairs figure skating: The two/four workers are seen as a team working their match. The matches are ranked by the crowd vote, and at the end of the show the winning "match" is announced and given the win. This seems absurd- but it's the natural end of a "performance art"-based wrestling. If it's not able to go that far, it's inherently saying "the role you play does matter and being able to make people believe in your role matters." I have tried to watch something like DragonGate with essentially this mindset. I didn't know the factions or feuds or most of the workers' names, so I was going to just enjoy the "dance" aspect of it. I got bored really fast. And I like figure skating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, bobholly138 said: Sucks there isn't a MS based wrestler in the big leagues yet. But the MS indie scene has a lot of good to great talent. Guys like Nate Moss-Works mostly for SWA now. Their TV show is on FITE app now. Lukas Frost-See above. Barry Wolf-Works all over. Teams with Frost in SWA. Rey Fury-Dude is going all over the place now. I am betting by 2022 he is in NXT or some place similar. You've got Marko Stunt in AEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, J.H. said: Man WCW had trying to find something to do with Champion since his debut in 86 James See, he created his own problem. If you give a belt to a guy that called himself Champion every motherfucker would start calling themselves Steve Belt or Michael Title or Bill Heavymetal Openweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Saw someone talking about this on Twitter the other day. I remember watching this as a kid on TV and it's some wild stuff. Nailz legit stiffed up Bossman here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 A glimpse of the new Raw set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said: Going back to the "performance art" question with Jordynne Grace...the weird thing is, even as wrestling changes to that viewpoint, we haven't seen a promotion completely steer into the skid there. Give every person who goes to the show a voting card, and then run the matches similarly to pairs figure skating: The two/four workers are seen as a team working their match. The matches are ranked by the crowd vote, and at the end of the show the winning "match" is announced and given the win. This seems absurd- but it's the natural end of a "performance art"-based wrestling. If it's not able to go that far, it's inherently saying "the role you play does matter and being able to make people believe in your role matters." Aaargh, this is one of my main beefs with Bischoff - he keeps harping on a wrestling "performance" show with judges that vote on the timed matches. Wrestling is an art, but it is uncertain if it is Art. If you equate it with acting or performance art (Arts) then you realize that Art is not voted on or graded. Indeed, it could be argued that an audience is not even necessary for "true Art". Pro wrestling does need an audience, and there is interaction between the workers and the crowd but traditionally (and I believe essentially) the workers are in total control of the event. Wrestling is sui generis. It contains elements of other arts, crafts, sports and even Art, but it is not any one of them. - RAF 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Craig H said: Wednesday I'll watch AEW live and I'll just keep watching NXT later, which is what I do now. And then Thursdays...Is there nothing on Thursday? Thursdays will have NXT UK going up on the Network starting this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Well, if anything, this thread reminded me of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, DreamBroken said: Thursdays will have NXT UK going up on the Network starting this week NWA just announced that their TV show will be 6 pm EST on Thursdays. But it is Facebook and Youtube so you can pretty much watch it whenever the fuck you want. Billy sure loves to burn through that Smashing Pumpkins money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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