RIPPA Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 There are two different issues at hand. Y'all are talking in the broader sense In a more specific to the example sense - sports announcers will always act better than the things they are promoting (especially if they don't understand it) So you could replace wrestling with MMA or the Kardashians or Weird AL or Ninja etc.... and results will be the same. God them talking about TV shows they don't watch alone is embarrassing (as anyone who has heard Joe Buck during the World Series can tell you) But Networks will always think live reads are better than just commercials so here we are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Anyone in Knoxville that looks down on wrestling ain't from around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 Or..... you get things like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Or..... you get things like this “SHAKE THAT CAMERA!!! SHAKE THAT CAMERA!!! SHAKE IT LIKE YOU DON’T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ANYMORE!!!” Edited September 29, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, RIPPA said: In a more specific to the example sense - sports announcers will always act better than the things they are promoting (especially if they don't understand it) Jason Benetti told a great story a few weeks back about there being a read he's had all season that he's really wanted to make fun of. So when Mike Schur was brought in to call a White Sox game, Benetti made sure to have him do that read. That's how a pro handles their grievances with the copy they're given: Passive aggressively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 They just showed a Fox promo with Terry Bradshaw (I honestly almost wrote Justin) calling Baker Mayfield and Tom Brady ‘The Man’ then showed Becky Lynch going “Guys, I’m right here!” followed by Bradshaw pointing at her and mouthing “The Man” which was a clever little promo only for for them to cut back to the game with an announcer who clearly had no idea what he was seeing saying “And there’s two men...and a lady.” Why wouldn’t they give the announcers a quick “We’re hyping the shit out of this, act like you know what it is!” memo?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Too bad we arent getting Jim Nantz have to do these wrestling promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Jason Benetti told a great story a few weeks back about there being a read he's had all season that he's really wanted to make fun of. So when Mike Schur was brought in to call a White Sox game, Benetti made sure to have him do that read. That's how a pro handles their grievances with the copy they're given: Passive aggressively! So I announce roller derby, and one year a sponsor gave us palindromes to read as part of their ad copy since their name itself was a palindrome. I love palindromes. I think they are fantastic. But the sponsor gave us three basic palindromes to read (stuff like "too hot to hoot"), and I asked our sponsorship coordinator if the sponsor would be fine with me bringing my own palindromes to the copy, even giving a list of examples. One of the palindromes I submitted was 23 words long. ("Are we not pure? 'No sir!' Panama’s moody Noriega brags. 'It is garbage!' Irony dooms a man; a prisoner up to new era.", in case you're curious.) "Stefanie, they like your enthusiasm, but asked that you stick to the copy the provided." So I stuck to the copy and read each one in a monotone. Not one of my finer moments, admittedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said: "Are we not pure? 'No sir!' Panama’s moody Noriega brags. 'It is garbage!' Irony dooms a man; a prisoner up to new era." This is a million times better than Too hot to hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I hope so. The problem would still be New Japan's relationship with CMLL and AEW's with AAA. New Japan isn't going to cozy up to a company that's partnered with CMLL's chief rival unless CMLL gives them a reason to. 5 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Actually, Lance teaming with old partner to become a bunch old Canadian assholes would be the perfect way to return. "Become"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: "Become"? Well... One half has only been portraying that. We haven’t seen heel Lance in his purest form in years. Him doing his Canadian robot thing again would be something cool in his veteran age. Also if you want to create a heel stable with veteran heel Canadians as the mystery partners you got Lance, and Shawn Spears(Who people sometimes forget is a Canuck). It would make sense, and you’d have another trios team if the plan is to have trios belts. Edited September 29, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Theres always dr Luther or Lazenby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 There's every chance Jericho could still be teaming with LAX. Only it could be Homicide and Hernandez, not Santana and Ortiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Black Dragon Bret Como still wrestles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just hoping FOX hires Bob Costas now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Just hoping FOX hires Bob Costas now. Bob loved Wrestling at the Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: Theres always dr Luther or Lazenby. Is Canada's Greatest Athlete Iron Mike Sharpe still alive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, sabremike said: Is Canada's Greatest Athlete Iron Mike Sharpe still alive? No. Even with Jesus's healing powers he's still wearing the leather forearm pad in Heaven. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm a bit late here, but in what world does the media NOT treat the Kardashians as trashy? It's pretty much the current definition of trashy guilty pleasure in mainstream entertainment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: I'm a bit late here, but in what world does the media NOT treat the Kardashians as trashy? It's pretty much the current definition of trashy guilty pleasure in mainstream entertainment. Perhaps you missed Forbes incredulously listing Kylie Jenner as the world’s youngest “self-made” billionaire. https://www.google.ca/search?q=kylie+jenner+youngest+billionaire&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#imgrc=lOzDfkPgtjujSM: Theres also a huge amount of people who think Kim Kardashian is a feminist icon. Yes. Really. Edited September 30, 2019 by caley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: I think it's perceived aspiration. The Kardashians are seen living in mansions, wearing designer clothes, traveling the world in private jets. It seems so carefree. Then take wrestling, with sweaty people giving the appearance of beating up each other while an unruly audience screams for more violence. It speaks to why more women in the 12-34 and 18-49 demos watch reality TV. It's the TV version of the rat vs the squirrel. Both are rodents. But one gets a pass for having an adorable fuzzy tail. I don't give Tree Rats a pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I should clarify: I don't mean the family is treated as trashy, but the show, whatever the fuck it's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Throwing the Kardashians in a bin while Kanye becomes a religious zealot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: I'm a bit late here, but in what world does the media NOT treat the Kardashians as trashy? It's pretty much the current definition of trashy guilty pleasure in mainstream entertainment. It's 50/50 and that's because they've been around for so long now. People will demonize them for whatever (and you argue most of that is outside the media now), but you will also have media try to legitimize them by having two of the Kardashian sisters present at the Primetime Emmys and stories in like Forbes or w/e about one of the Jenner sisters being the youngest self made billionaire (as @caley just pointed out as I was writing this). Gossip sites may love or hate them depending on the day, but the tide is turning in terms of the media coverage. Plus, you have so many shows that have followed that try to one up them that it's the new normal. 7 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I agree with this but boxing/UFC don't have quite the same stigma. They've both been dunked on many times but they are still able to maintain a certain level of respect in the mainstream media. Maybe TV contracts are a part of that and because it's "real" but another thing is celebrities still show up to a big boxing event and treat it as the place to be on that evening. 7 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Re: Comparing wrestling to boxing/UFC, that's a fools errand and always will be. That real/fake divide isn't going anywhere in some people's minds. Even NASCAR is afforded more respect than wrestling simply on the basis of being real. That's a battle wrestling will never win. Boxing and MMA go how the coverage goes, but at the same time, they're helped by the fact no one outside those communities really care the skeletons in the closet of either. UFC has been embroiled in a class action lawsuit since 2014. We're on YEAR 5 of this and the trial hasn't even started yet. Nobody outside Dave Meltzer and the three guys that have covered it since the beginning (Jason Cruz, Robert Joyner, and Paul Gift) give a damn. The UFC also has been anti-union for the longest. Besides Leslie Smith being on Samantha Bee's show last year IIRC to discuss that, nobody in the mainstream has covered it. Boxing has its own laundry list of problems that most people can probably guess. Maxim Dadashev basically died on ESPN back in July. It was a story for a few weeks if that and that's only because another boxer died in the ring within a week or so of Dadashev dying. Then, it went back to business as usual like people just didn't watch a man get beat to death and we didn't watch him basically collapse after being unable to leave the ring area under his own power. The realness element helps and the big TV contracts (or streaming contracts as it goes with DAZN) help too, but you can also argue it's way too real because as both sports have continued success, the human cockfighting element continues to grow and get even uglier. But again, nobody outside boxing and MMA hardcores really give a damn. There were a number of celebs at Tyson Fury's fight at MGM Grand a couple weeks back. I saw Paul George and some other people at the Bellator show last night at the Forum. Magic Johnson and other celebs were at the Spence vs. Porter fight last night at Staples Center. Hell, Big E was there in Shawn Porter's dressing room. I saw the Houston Rockets were cross training MMA the other day with Harden and Westbrook doing a big photo op. The Rock is presenting the BMF belt when the UFC goes back to MSG on November 2. There aren't a bunch of MMA or boxing superstars right now, but you would think so based on the proximity to other stars in sports and entertainment. Edited September 30, 2019 by Elsalvajeloco 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: I should clarify: I don't mean the family is treated as trashy, but the show, whatever the fuck it's called. They're much bigger than the show now so it's kinda irrelevant. That show can go off the air tomorrow, and they would still be pretty damn popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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