Greggulator Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Natural said: Alvarez and Melter suck. Don’t they understand that someone coming out as a baby face is part of a heel’s evil plot? As far as the audience: There is a huge segment of the crowd that are fans of heels. And Nattie can be really irritating as a face. She has her strengths but evoking sympathy via promos is not one of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 My main now from highlights from Raw is every time someone returns and Cole says “Could it be!? It is!” I feel a little bit more of my soul escape to the dark dimension. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I think blue hair is just a darker color for a heel. Maybe Big Snoop Dogg said she should go Crip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Man Known as Dan said: My main now from highlights from Raw is every time someone returns and Cole says “Could it be!? It is!” I feel a little bit more of my soul escape to the dark dimension. Better watch out. You might get replaced by your blue-haired doppelganger is that keeps up. And because Niners snuck in, the issue isn't the hair color so much as it was the pro wrestling trope of a reveal. This was like Hogan pulling the mask of Beefcake in 94, but instead pulling off a wig to reveal the same person with a different hair color. (I actually think if she kept the Blonde hair from earlier in the week that would have had more symbolic value). That's probably a bad example because it's not iconic. It just came off as really weird to me, because it felt like it was a "reveal" due to conditioned pro wrestling tropes, but it really wasn't. Edited August 13, 2019 by Matt D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I think blue hair is just a darker color for a heel. Maybe Big Snoop Dogg said she should go Crip. Or to further contrast with Becky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Craig H said: And then you had this company refusing to turn Samoa Joe face. This crowd wants him as a face, but they just refuse to fully turn him. So dumb. Seriously. Another one for the "this fucking company..." pile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Or it's just the hair color she happened to wind up with on this particular Monday, after going through like 5 different colors in the past 4 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Man Known as Dan said: My main now from highlights from Raw is every time someone returns and Cole says “Could it be!? It is!” I feel a little bit more of my soul escape to the dark dimension. I feel that too whenever Cole says, "he's in the drop zone!" or "it's BOSS TIME!" or any of the other crap he repeats constantly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 It's like asking why did John Cena change his shirt from vomit orange to vomit green. They wanted to sell a new shirt. Maybe there's some other reason behind it but it's likely let's sell some shirts, let's sell some Barbie dolls with blue hair, etc. And @Morganti makes a good point, orange does contrast with the blue and when they are together in the ring it will be like Florida Gators colors so that's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 No, Blue hair is inherently evil. Bull Nakano, blue hair, evil. Leva Bates, blue hair, evil. Kiera Hogan, red haired babyface. Turns heel, hair turns blue. Coincidence? I think not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, AxB said: No, Blue hair is inherently evil. Bull Nakano, blue hair, evil. Leva Bates, blue hair, evil. Kiera Hogan, red haired babyface. Turns heel, hair turns blue. Coincidence? I think not. Cobra shot blue lasers, GI Joe shot red ones. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Bull Nakano was always in the right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 hours ago, HumanChessgame said: KOTR is going to be spread out over multiple weeks instead of doing the right thing and making it a one night tournament, isn't it? Dave Meltzer reports that King of the Ring will be a multi-week tournament on both Raw and SmackDown. The finals will take place at next month's Clash of Champions pay-per-view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 TV Tropes has an answer. Quote it may simply be chosen due to Chromatic Arrangement. A variation on this is Red Oni, Blue Oni, with a character that's calm being represented by blue and a more fiery character being represented by red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Craig H said: I feel that too whenever Cole says, "he's in the drop zone!" or "it's BOSS TIME!" or any of the other crap he repeats constantly. Was it Jim Ross who started the "Commentators have catchphrases too" concept? Because it spread through WWE like Japanese knotweed. Admittedly, I did think that Tazz yelling Here Comes The Pain whenever Lesnar's music hit helped get Brock over. But other than that.... Booker T took it so far people made a bingo card of all his sayings. That should have been a clue to the industry to try to settle things down a bit. But it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 It was SportsCenter that created it. Every anchor needed to have 40 billion catchphrases and get all their shit in. Again, I always say Fuck Disney. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, AxB said: Was it Jim Ross who started the "Commentators have catchphrases too" concept? Because it spread through WWE like Japanese knotweed. Admittedly, I did think that Tazz yelling Here Comes The Pain whenever Lesnar's music hit helped get Brock over. But other than that.... Booker T took it so far people made a bingo card of all his sayings. That should have been a clue to the industry to try to settle things down a bit. But it wasn't. Excuse, but it's "WELP! Here comes the pain!" You gotta have that "welp" in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Wait it was "Welp" not 'Well"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyslamdunk Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Greggulator said: She has her strengths but evoking sympathy via promos is not one of them. Yep. Doesn’t help that she usually looks like she’s about to laugh while cutting a promo. Or that the script about her actually dead father was full of clichés. In fairness to Nattie, I can’t think of anyone who’s evoked even a hint of sympathy delivering a WWE written promo in years. Hell, I’m struggling to come up with a recent sympathetic in-ring performance from the main roster, from the company that “makes movies.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, AxB said: Kiera Hogan, red haired babyface. Turns heel, hair turns blue. I had no idea she did that (am still way behind on the show) but that's a pretty neat move to further establish her heel turn. Just finished the first hour but this version of Dolph is my favorite. Short matches, claiming it's just a flesh wound (love Monty Python) and getting beat up some more. This has Heyman's fingerprints all over it and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 When Matt Bloom changed from Albert to A-Train, once when he did his entrance Tazz said "Welp, here comes the Train". He never said it again so presumably he got screamed at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Ow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Craig H said: Cobra shot blue lasers, GI Joe shot red ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, steve said: Ow. Look at the cameras. LOL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, hammerva said: Wait it was "Welp" not 'Well"? Hmmm...I don't want to go back and verify. I'm just going to believe I know for sure he once said welp so surely he said it that way every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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