supremebve Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Raziel said: Dammit Pete, don't derail the "Alexa is garbage, BURN HER!" narrative! Not my intention. I was legitimately asking how difficult it is to throw a worked punch that makes contact, but doesn't harm your opponent. That punch doesn't look good, because it looks like she misses it by a decent margin (Kairi's exaggerated dazed selling probably makes it look worse). Doc's looks good, because it does make contact (just barely), and Kobashi sells it like death. I ask, because I remember reading Foley's book and it is something he actually brought up with both Vader and Terry Funk. Both are guys who throw punches that look like they hurt, and it's because they actually hurt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, supremebve said: Not my intention. I was legitimately asking how difficult it is to throw a worked punch that makes contact, but doesn't harm your opponent. That punch doesn't look good, because it looks like she misses it by a decent margin (Kairi's exaggerated dazed selling probably makes it look worse). Doc's looks good, because it does make contact (just barely), and Kobashi sells it like death. I ask, because I remember reading Foley's book and it is something he actually brought up with both Vader and Terry Funk. Both are guys who throw punches that look like they hurt, and it's because they actually hurt. I remember Becky Lynch on her rise up the WWE ranks last year asking Jerry Lawler how he threw great punches. Here's the video: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Magnificent 7 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 It’s better when punches are used sparingly and by the right people since they are illegal because of the damage they theoretically do. I can’t get the gif to work of Kawada punching Shibata to win their match ( he gives him one last kick on the way to the pin) after they kick, slap, elbow, knee, chop, etc. most the match. But that punch when Kawada unloads it and the selling is incredible. The camera angles always help, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, The Natural said: I remember Becky Lynch on her rise up the WWE ranks last year asking Jerry Lawler how he threw great punches. Here's the video: The end part of the video is exactly what I’ve been saying for years. Selling the punch is the most important part. No matter how good the punch can look, it falls apart as soon as the wrestler taking it just stands there barely flinching for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Magnificent 7 said: It’s better when punches are used sparingly and by the right people since they are illegal because of the damage they theoretically do. I can’t get the gif to work of Kawada punching Shibata to win their match ( he gives him one last kick on the way to the pin) after they kick, slap, elbow, knee, chop, etc. most the match. But that punch when Kawada unloads it and the selling is incredible. The camera angles always help, too. I always loved the way Kawada would work a punch into a match. He always made it seem like the dirtiest and most effective move in wrestling so whenever he did connect with it he got across how much of a desperation move it was but also how not sorry he was to use it. Edited August 6, 2019 by Godfrey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireThunder Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 One of the things I stumbled across on YouTube a while back are videos Al Snow did with The Hannibal where he held some classes with students in the ring. There's some really entertaining stuff there and some pretty good shoot interviews, my personal favorite being his story about his match with Bruiser Brody. In one of the videos, he talks to the students about punches in wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, olythegreat89 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, FireThunder said: In one of the videos, he talks to the students about punches in wrestling. I watched those a while back, and I came away with a negative opinion of Al Snow after that. Especially because of the worked punch video. It screamed to me like “I’m bad at throwing worked punches, so don’t expect me to teach you”, or maybe that’s how he was taught so he’s repeating his teachers speech verbatim. Admittedly, I agreed with his sentiment at one point. Especially depending on what the companies booking style is. But to act like a worked punch can’t work, unless it’s a finish, is preposterous. To me, if you can throw a believable worked punch. Then fucking do it. The last thing I need as a booker is another guy who fucked up his arm because he’s throwing too many meaty chops. But the other guys gotta fucking sell it. Edited August 7, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 King of the X Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DJ Hero Morganti Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I actually enjoyed the hell out of that match. And when caught up in the moment Shawn's over the top selling made Hogan seem like a superhero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mystman Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I might be an asshole, but I so want to see Ziggler pull this with Goldberg on Sunday. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 59 minutes ago, mystman said: I might be an asshole, but I so want to see Ziggler pull this with Goldberg on Sunday. You're not an asshole. I'd watch the replay of the match if Ziggler did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ryan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I throw worked punches like Necro Butcher did, just punch the person in the face as hard as you can and instead of letting them do the same to me, I run out of the arena. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianChris Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 2:25 PM, supremebve said: All you would have had to say to me is, "you're going out there to wrestle Van Hammer tonight," and I wouldn't do anything even remotely risky. I'm not killing myself trying to have a good match with someone that terrible. Yet Mick had the best match of the night and got a bonus from the Cowboy for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Van Hammer was given a new guitar pick for the guitar he didn't play as payment for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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