Go2Sleep Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Eivion said: Charlotte/Trish was great. Trish looked better than she ever did in her prime and the two gelled generally well. This might have been my favorite match from the show. No disrespect to Mickie, Victoria, Molly, etc, but Charlotte is a good bit better than anyone Trish ever worked with in her prime (except like Christian and Jericho if you count one-offs). I'm glad Trish got a match like this to settle the argument whether or not she could hang if she came up today, though. Seth/Brock would've been a lot better without Seth catching a case of DDP disease. You don't need an injury angle to build up Brock as a threat. Any non-fan could discern Brock's opponent is an underdog just by looking at them, and people who have followed his career just need to hear his name and the story is set. Seth no-selling the buildup just makes everyone look bad. Edited August 12, 2019 by Go2Sleep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Didn't watch, just caught the main event today. Seth Rollins is really bad at selling. Edited August 12, 2019 by brandonr4s 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, steve said: I'm not gonna argue with you about it You should reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Edwin said: There's no way to fix it. It's happening to everyone streaming on PS4. My "favorite" bug on PS4 so far: I was starting to watch the show this afternoon; when I was FF through a segment (as good as possible with the shitty FF function of the new network), it suddendly jumped to the very end of the show, showing Rollins celebrating. So not only did I lose the position of the video I was at, I got the main event spoilered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: That might not be far off. I've never had an issue streaming NJWORLD. I only have during Wrestle Kingdom, which I assume is them getting way more users all at once for the only time all year. But I hadn't had problems with the Network in a long time until this relaunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I didn't watch Summerslam, but I just listened to the updated version of Bray's theme. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I didn't watch Summerslam, but I just listened to the updated version of Bray's theme. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. The show was solid at worst. Check out the women's matches and Seth/Brock. Bray's update theme works well with his new entrance. Check that out as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Robert s said: My "favorite" bug on PS4 so far: I was starting to watch the show this afternoon; when I was FF through a segment (as good as possible with the shitty FF function of the new network), it suddendly jumped to the very end of the show, showing Rollins celebrating. So not only did I lose the position of the video I was at, I got the main event spoilered. That happened to me on the network a lot on my PS3. The worse is when it did it without me FF Toni Storm vs. Rhea Ripley the TV rematch weeks of the build up to the match. The Match starts and jumps to Toni walking up the ramp with the belt with the copyright in the corner. I feel your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, nate said: The look he gives when he debuted the Fiend in the vignettes - the dead eyed stare - gives the impression of a pretty good actor underneath Bray the character. The spot where Bray / Fiend struggled between listening to the Hurt hand and the Heal hand was the fucking best. His new entrance is also money. For some reason, I feel that the remix of his old theme has a lot more impact now that it has a female vocal. Maybe because of the Sister Abigail part of Bray's mythology.. I have no idea why I am falling for this new gimmick. Bray has let me down before and I feel that this will be no exception. At least WWE is getting better about setting the table. I knew as soon as I saw Normal Finn come out to face The Fiend, Balor was going to get his ass beat. It's a good set-up for the eventual Demon vs. Fiend showdown. Edited August 13, 2019 by J.T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I'm glad Broken Out In Love was kept. I really like this remixed version. Hurt and Heal chants also adds to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I just got done listening to WOR on SummerSlam and I gotta say I think Dave is being unfair here. He's saying that WWE style is dated and they are playing catch up. He did say they've evolved and NXT is proof that there are people who know the business has evolved and are letting guys go ahead with the shackles off but on the main roster they are still too restricted. I don't agree. Yes, I can watch the G1 and yes I do think it's better than current WWE but here's the thing. WWE is a billion dollar company with a heavy schedule. I don't think it's a matter of "evolving". If Ibushi gets hurt on the G1 and he did the first night, so what.. they are just going to shoot him up with whatever and send him back out and Ibushi is FINE with that.. WWE really can't afford to be having Roman and Seth go kill themselves. Maybe I'm wrong, I think for the most part the WWE guys are doing plenty of moves and taking plenty of risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Nattie and Becky were my favorite match. Some really brutal moments and it felt like they really hated one another. As a supporter of the older diva era women, I was behind Trish all of the way, despite knowing that a Charlotte win made the most sense. Good stuff from both and Trish makes me wonder how she and so many others would have gotten even better in today’s environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, J.T. said: The booking of Bray has let me down before and I feel that this will be no exception. At least WWE is getting better about setting the table. I knew as soon as I saw Normal Finn come out to face The Fiend, Balor was going to get his ass beat. It's a good set-up for the eventual Demon vs. Fiend showdown. Respectfully submitted as a FTFY ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 10 hours ago, J.T. said: The spot where Bray / Fiend struggled between listening to the Hurt hand and the Heal hand was the fucking best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Add me to the camp that wants to see a Bray Rogers/Fiend dichotomy at play. Hopefully it would be more like the best parts of Joseph Parks/Abyss, but we'd likely get the worst parts of Kane/Kane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, nate said: Add me to the camp that wants to see a Bray Rogers/Fiend dichotomy at play. Hopefully it would be more like the best parts of Joseph Parks/Abyss, but we'd likely get the worst parts of Kane/Kane. I'd like that as well. Gives Bray Wyatt two distinct personas like Keiji Muto/The Great Muta, Mick Foley's Three Faces of Foley and Abyss/Joseph Park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Like these sort of insights behind the wrestlers' attires. Edited August 13, 2019 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raziel Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, The Natural said: He later blocked Bray on Twitter when Bray said something not nice about Gargano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Raziel said: He later blocked Bray on Twitter when Bray said something not nice about Gargano. Wasn't aware of that. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, The Natural said: I'd like that as well. Gives Bray Wyatt two distinct personas like Keiji Muto/The Great Muta, Mick Foley's Three Faces of Foley and Abyss/Joseph Park. I mean its kind of obvious Bray is pulling from the Three Faces of Foley idea right now with Husky Harris, Bray the cult leader, Bray Rogers with the FFFH, & the Fiend all being severely different mental states/personalities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 Dave's ratings: Gulak vs. Lorcan: 2.75 Crews vs. Murphy: 1.75 Bliss & Cross vs. Iiconics: 1 Lynch vs. Natalya: 3.25 Goldberg vs. Ziggler: 3 Ricochet vs. Styles: 3 Bayley vs. Ember: 1.75 Owens vs. Shane: 2 Flair vs. Stratus: 3.25 Kingston vs. Orton: 2.5 Bálor vs. The Fiend: 2 Lesnar vs. Rollins: 4.25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Dave's ratings: Gulak vs. Lorcan: 2.75 Crews vs. Murphy: 1.75 Bliss & Cross vs. Iiconics: 1 Lynch vs. Natalya: 3.25 Goldberg vs. Ziggler: 3 Ricochet vs. Styles: 3 Bayley vs. Ember: 1.75 Owens vs. Shane: 2 Flair vs. Stratus: 3.25 Kingston vs. Orton: 2.5 Bálor vs. The Fiend: 2 Lesnar vs. Rollins: 4.25 If you add them all up you get Jay White and Ibushi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 So I think Bray's best bet is to not wrestle on TV at all and use the Funhouse to build to PPV matches, then focus all his creative energies on cool entrances and outfits. It will keep him from getting stale and treat him more like an attraction. I don't think he's bad in the ring or anything, it would just be playing to his strengths. I don't think the Fiend should show up very often but I also don't think Bray should go the Finn/Demon route either and this is the best of both worlds. And if they want to build any kind of aura around the Fiend, limiting his exposure will be key. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 You're absolutely right. Not only that, but I'd have him win the Rumble as described above and then only see him in the Funhouse until 'mania. MAYBE he shows up at Fastlane/Roadblock/HOVlane/Carpoolonly or whatever that show is and faces down the champ. Then he destroys whoever the champ is in a matter of a couple minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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