Matt D Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Have people seen the Mr. Hughes face turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Matt D said: Have people seen the Mr. Hughes face turn? Was that when his sunglasses broke and blinded him? It looks that way from the bandage over his right eye. Edited July 22, 2019 by Nice Guy Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 For the more visual learners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, RIPPA said: For the more visual learners Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Raw's ticket sales aren't awful, but it's not great (insert Chernobyl gif here). SmackDown's is pretty awful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Craig H said: Raw's ticket sales aren't awful, but it's not great (insert Chernobyl gif here). SmackDown's is pretty awful though. Even though they're not that bad, they kind of are, though. I mean, this isn't even a house show, this is Raw at the freakin' Garden. Maybe it's the old timey WWF mark or NY homer in me I guess, but to me, it should still be a special building - Bruno, Backlund, Graham, Hulkamania, The Curtain Call, Cactus Jack, Eddy and [redacted] celebrating at WM XX, "The Garden will always be the Garden" etc. Maybe this is the era of buildings like Brooklyn, Bridgeport, Hartford, Providence, Worcester and Boston becoming more important as their northeast home bases. I'm gonna have to look up the recent numbers there later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, Matt D said: Have people seen the Mr. Hughes face turn? I vaguely remember it leading into him being renamed as the Big Cat and teaming with Junkyard Dog? I loved that team up as a kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, Craig H said: Raw's ticket sales aren't awful, but it's not great (insert Chernobyl gif here). SmackDown's is pretty awful though. They dropped the MSG Raw/SD with 7 weeks to go until the shows. With the recent lackluster shows, I'm not blaming people for not wanting to drop $50+ per person to see those shows. Hell, I'm blessed with a teeny bit of disposable income and I have no desire to see those shows live. Especially at that price point. If they want the MSG shows to not just be "another arena" show, then god damn it, do something special other than "Baron Corbin vs. Seth Rollins in the main event." Frankly, I'm shocked they didn't save the MSG return for something big like Survivor Series or the '21 Rumble. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said: They dropped the MSG Raw/SD with 7 weeks to go until the shows. With the recent lackluster shows, I'm not blaming people for not wanting to drop $50+ per person to see those shows. Hell, I'm blessed with a teeny bit of disposable income and I have no desire to see those shows live. Especially at that price point. If they want the MSG shows to not just be "another arena" show, then god damn it, do something special other than "Baron Corbin vs. Seth Rollins in the main event." Frankly, I'm shocked they didn't save the MSG return for something big like Survivor Series or the '21 Rumble. I miss when WWE returned to MSG every two years: WrestleMania X, Survivor Series 1996, SummerSlam 1998, Royal Rumble 2000 and Survivor Series 2002. I also miss the distinctive entrance in the stands. Shame that's not used now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Did the NJPW/ ROH MSG show sell out, or get close to it? Because if it did, getting outdrawn in your own (former) home arena, that's pretty embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Natural said: I miss when WWE returned to MSG every two years: WrestleMania X, Survivor Series 1996, SummerSlam 1998, Royal Rumble 2000 and Survivor Series 2002. I also miss the distinctive entrance in the stands. Shame that's not used now. Arena standardization sucks. As a relatively (last decade) new MSG attendee, I can’t tell you how disappointed I was to walk in and discover that it....looks just like every other arena in the country. I get the reason behind it, but I wish arenas would take a cue from baseball and get some character back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, AxB said: Did the NJPW/ ROH MSG show sell out, or get close to it? Because if it did, getting outdrawn in your own (former) home arena, that's pretty embarrassing. MSG's wiki says capacity is 18,006 for wrestling, Cagematch lists G1 Supercard's attendance as 16.534, so close. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said: They dropped the MSG Raw/SD with 7 weeks to go until the shows. With the recent lackluster shows, I'm not blaming people for not wanting to drop $50+ per person to see those shows. Hell, I'm blessed with a teeny bit of disposable income and I have no desire to see those shows live. Especially at that price point. If they want the MSG shows to not just be "another arena" show, then god damn it, do something special other than "Baron Corbin vs. Seth Rollins in the main event." Frankly, I'm shocked they didn't save the MSG return for something big like Survivor Series or the '21 Rumble. Fair enough and that makes sense. Maybe my cue for the Chernobyl Dyatlov gif worked in ways I didn't expect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, AxB said: Did the NJPW/ ROH MSG show sell out, or get close to it? Because if it did, getting outdrawn in your own (former) home arena, that's pretty embarrassing. MSG looked pretty full. I had to get my ticket from Stubhub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Also something else to keep in mind Sept 9th and 10th are after Labor Day so school is back in session - NYC schools (and most in the Tri-State area) start on Sept 5. so that is a really tough ask to have kids out that late (at least for RAW) on like the third day of school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, AxB said: Did the NJPW/ ROH MSG show sell out, or get close to it? Because if it did, getting outdrawn in your own (former) home arena, that's pretty embarrassing. The available seats were super expensive and were separate from the last time I looked before the show. That being said, when I bought my ticket, I thought I was getting Omega/Cody/Bucks/etc -- I'm guessing at least half that arena felt the same way. Still had a great time, but I honestly don't know if I would've spent the amount of money I did for a bunch of ROH guys I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, AxB said: Did the NJPW/ ROH MSG show sell out, or get close to it? Because if it did, getting outdrawn in your own (former) home arena, that's pretty embarrassing. If AAA outdraws them (HA!) later that week - that's embarrassing A one off show during the biggest wrestling week of the year featuring wrestlers that many wrestling fans had never had the opportunity to see live - I wouldn't call that embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 True. And if you charge twice as much for tickets and sell half as many, that's two identical box offices, regardless of attendance. But still. Seats without Butts on them is not a good look for anything except an empty arena match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I’m sorry, but if Matt Taven, and The Beer City Bruiser outdraws you, then you should take a header off the top of MSG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: I’m sorry, but if Matt Taven, and The Beer City Bruiser outdraws you, then you should take a header off the top of MSG. Because that was who was selling the ROH/New Japan. From the WON Quote The show itself was a mixed bag. The general feeling is that even though the contracts were that New Japan and ROH each would get 50 percent of the show, the fans were very clearly there for New Japan. The only ROH matches that really got over involved ROH wrestlers working with New Japan talent. Plus, the two surprise angles didn’t play well with this audience. Let's dial back the hyperbole a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I kid... I kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Raziel said: MSG's wiki says capacity is 18,006 for wrestling, Cagematch lists G1 Supercard's attendance as 16.534, so close. i think that is for the old set up when they came out the Knicks/Rangers locker room tunnel. Now with the stage set up the back end of the arena was closed off that lobs a couple thousand seats off the top. So in that regard just judging from what I saw I'd say it was pretty damn close to sold out. Looks like Smackdown will be a really easy ticket to get. Also they might have to employ some WCW 2000 lighting tricks to make it look full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: If Orton were to ever do anything outside of WWE, I would really like to see Orton vs. Okada in a battle of dropkicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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