lostinube Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 11 hours ago, Archibald said: This was fun show in a literal sense since I feel like 3 of the matches had some comedy to them, obviously Juice/Naito and Taichi/White had less of it than Yano/Moxley, but I still found myself laughing thru them. Surprising thing to me was that Fukuoka crowd had pretty good reaction to Moxley. I remember The Elite and even Jericho struggling to get anything out of them, but Mox did great I thought. Like, it wasn't amazing or anything like that, but miles better when it was dead-dead during The Elite matches/segments. Omega had to almost murder Hangman for them to start reacting, while Yano and Mox had them with simple tricks. The G1 was in the Fukuoka Civic Gym whereas Dontaku is in the Kokusai Center. The Kokusai Center crowd is notorious for not being really heated. It's not that the Fukuoka crowd doesn't care. I don't think I ever heard anyone deride the Hakata Star Lane crowds. Fwiw, of the times I was on the floor for past Dontakus, the crowd was lively yet it never comes across that way on TV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryan said: I just go back and watch select tournament matches in a vacuum when I feel like it after it's over at a slow pace. I just follow it otherwise as results. I avoid burn out that way. Plus, I don't feel the need to watch stuff I don't want to see or that bombed. That's how I used to do it, but I decided to watch the whole thing this year because there are so many fresh match ups. I'm skipping most of the Fale matches, though, because he's always sucked. I'm having a blast so far, even though trying to keep up means I don't have time yet to watch stuff I'm really excited for (like The Boys and Veronica Mars). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) All kidding aside, there was nothing wrong with the booking of the Yano win over Moxley. Also, considering the way fans worship Eddie Guerrero's "cheat to win" antics, they should appreciate what Yano did here. Also, it was a count out victory after he taped Moxley's leg to Shooter's. Hardly a legit win. That's Yano's whole schtick. He uses offbeat shenanigans to trick his opponents to earn the victory because that's the only way he can do it. He can't legit beat these guys. That's the point of his character/gimmick. I mean they told a story with their match. Isn't that ideally what a wrestling match should do? Moxley was aware of Yano's reputation as a crafty, tricky sumbitch, he tried to outwit the crafty sumbitch, and he still came out with the L. The match worked perfectly. That match worked just as well as any 25-minute 4 3/4 snowflake contest. This is a big reason why I stopped caring about assigning snowflake ratings to matches. I found much later on, I can enjoy a decent five-minute match or even a good squash that works the way it's supposed to do and provides enjoyment above all else. This match did exactly what it was supposed to do. Edited August 2, 2019 by TheVileOne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryArchieGus Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Due to the high quality of mat action this G1 is producing I find myself a subscriber to NJPW World. What a blast watching the Twelfth Night. Ishii-Goto was just a breath of fresh air from the centre of the ring. As has everything I've seen from Ishii here. Cobb looked strong against Takagi. I dug that Moxley - Yano semi-comedy match - smart maneuvering there. Everything I watched (didn't see the tags) was really solid. And was so much better with the Japanese commentary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) NSFW. Edited August 2, 2019 by The Natural 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, The Natural said: NSFW. Isn't this why Moxley quit WWE? Edited August 2, 2019 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I’m really loving the relationship evolution of Shota, and Mox. It’s going to be sad when they eventually split up for good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Natural said: Oh my god... That line about Archer having a clean dump was absolutely perfect. Edited August 2, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 12 hours ago, TheVileOne said: All kidding aside, there was nothing wrong with the booking of the Yano win over Moxley. Also, considering the way fans worship Eddie Guerrero's "cheat to win" antics, they should appreciate what Yano did here. Also, it was a count out victory after he taped Moxley's leg to Shooter's. Hardly a legit win. That's Yano's whole schtick. He uses upbeat shenanigans to trick his opponents to earn the victory because that's the only way he can do it. He can't legit beat these guys. That's the point of his character/gimmick. I mean they told a story with their match. Isn't that ideally what a wrestling match should do? Moxley was aware of Yano's reputation as a crafty, tricky sumbitch, he tried to outwit the crafty sumbitch, and he still came out with the L. That's the thing- he really could. He was a national amateur wrestling champion before turning pro, he's fought in Pancrase and he could clearly be a top level guy if he applied himself. He just has way too much fun being a goofy cheater and does it for the LOLZ. EDIT: Young Yano was a cool looking mofo back in the day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 When he was more serious and even heel serious not doing all his goofy schtick, he never really quiet had the athletic ability to pull off the level of matches to be there. His psychology is fine. He's just kind of slow and dumpy. Being the new Ueda and slowly transitioning into what he is now pretty much kept him employed. I think Choshu hated all his weapons and Sake stuff, so that went away. I enjoyed it because it was amusingly different back then when no one was doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryan said: I think Choshu hated all his weapons and Sake stuff, so that went away. I enjoyed it because it was amusingly different back then when no one was doing that. That is exactly what happened. Yano was doing comedy stuff based around it before only for Choshu to come back to book and throw it all out because he hated the gimmick. To be fair it was real sake so maybe it was that specific aspect he had a problem with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, Eivion said: That is exactly what happened. Yano was doing comedy stuff based around it before only for Choshu to come back to book and throw it all out because he hated the gimmick. To be fair it was real sake so maybe it was that specific aspect he had a problem with. He used real sake in Rahway when NJPW did their infamous east coast tour back in 2011... we could smell it all the way up in the bleachers. ISTR someone on the board here was even recruited to buy it for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pete said: He used real sake in Rahway when NJPW did their infamous east coast tour back in 2011... we could smell it all the way up in the bleachers. ISTR someone on the board here was even recruited to buy it for him. Neat, I mostly remember Samoa Joe mentioning it in a Q&A years ago. Edited August 2, 2019 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Now I find myself on the hunt for old Yano matches where's doing such things. Can't wait to see what I find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) The only good Yano match I can think of from that period is the one he had from a 2008 G1 show at Korakuen against Nakamura. Although it’s only good in my mind because Yano wins with a sneaky roll up, which is what he usually wins with now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited August 2, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 14 hours ago, The Natural said: NSFW. “Now let’s go ice my balls.” ***** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I'm enjoying Mox in G1 a lot, loved the Ishii and Shingo matches, enjoy the Uminno stuff etc, but at the same time a lot of his mic work is not exactly a million miles away from the hokey Dean Ambrose shit he was purportedly desperate to escape huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 In this specific instance he's obviously being extra comedic because of who he just lost to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Yeah idk, the Shooter stuff, the Janela cigarette bit, his energy is still fundamentally slightly corny Like he talked a big game but oh, actually Dean Ambrose is probably quite a lucrative guy to be 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 That's kind of how he was before WWE anyway. Just weird and nuts. He wasn't all serious heel promo rargh kill you guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Eivion said: That is exactly what happened. Yano was doing comedy stuff based around it before only for Choshu to come back to book and throw it all out because he hated the gimmick. To be fair it was real sake so maybe it was that specific aspect he had a problem with. Ah sake, I recall one night getting a case of the stuff with my martial arts instructor and four other students, we got totally fucked up and ended up kicking the door off the coke machine at the dojo. My favorite teacher was fired the next day, the owners had no sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Sports Day 2019. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Custos Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Zartan said: “Now let’s go ice my balls.” ***** Well he has had some practice at it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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