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3 hours ago, Casey said:

I think a more interesting thread would be what most of us did instead of watching RAW.

What's RAW?

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5 hours ago, odessasteps said:

1. At work

2. Binge Listening to Ron Fuller's podcast 

That's a real underrated gem of a podcast isn't it? Love the insights into the true territory days and hearing how big Dusty became in Florida when everyone there doubted he could get over as a face

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11 hours ago, Casey said:

I think a more interesting thread would be what most of us did instead of watching RAW.

How nice of you to ask!  As for me I...

1.Saw the Ubisoft press conference.

2. Watched BTE and MLW which is are a much better Monday tradition.

3. Watched Square Enix's press conference.

Oh, thank goodness for E3 though I am working my way through Raw now.  A lot of it sounds skippable which is fine with me.  And I'm really curious about how much the NBA finals will obliterate Raw in the ratings.

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1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

So the Revival won the belts, and they won it in the least interesting WWE multi-man way possible. What a fucking waste of time the last two months have been for those belts.

It’s funny that three times now Zack Ryder has had a big title win, including twice at Mania, and yet they consistently do nothing much with him afterward.

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I am mention this here instead of the 24/7 thread for... reasons

But since this is a metric that the WWE loves to look at - yet again the 24/7 Youtube clip is slaughtering all the other clips from last night (yet again being the only one over a million views)

That says a lot about a lot

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6 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

So the Revival won the belts, and they won it in the least interesting WWE multi-man way possible. What a fucking waste of time the last two months have been for those belts.

 

4 hours ago, JonnyLaw said:

It’s funny that three times now Zack Ryder has had a big title win, including twice at Mania, and yet they consistently do nothing much with him afterward.

Because then they immediately realize that Zack Ryder is a waste of time.

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Hold on a sec.  Now that I look at Ramblin' Rabbit.  It looks like it's a human-like face.  Is that supposed to be Cole?   

It's right in that uncanny valley and I can't quite figure out who it looks like. 

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1 minute ago, Lawful Metal said:

Is Raw beyond saving? What could they do to realistically fix things so that people would  a) want to watch, b) look forward to watching, and c) actually enjoy watching?

 

Turn it into a half hour comedy starring R-Truth, and the 24/7 roster. No ring, no fans, and no arenas. This is the real life Backstage Assault that fans have been wanting for years.

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6 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

Hold on a sec.  Now that I look at Ramblin' Rabbit.  It looks like it's a human-like face.  Is that supposed to be Cole?   

It's right in that uncanny valley and I can't quite figure out who it looks like. 

Goldust/Dustin Rhodes if he had buck teeth.

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32 minutes ago, Lawful Metal said:

Is Raw beyond saving? What could they do to realistically fix things so that people would  a) want to watch, b) look forward to watching, and c) actually enjoy watching?

As someone who actually doesn't hate Raw but recognizes it has shortcomings, I think the show:

1) Needs consistency

2) Needs to change the formula

That may seem like a contradiction, but no. 

The 24/7 title is doing well because it's not the status quo. It's different. Fresh. Offering something that isn't featured in any of the other stories. But it's also consistent in keeping R-Truth, Carmella, Drake Maverick, and a motley crew around it. A story unique to itself but with wrestlers who we know or have quickly endeared themselves to us.

I thought last night's show was mostly inoffensive. A decent episode that moved the stories along. But why they haven't figured out to stop killing the room with 20-minute promos at the start of every show, I don't know. It's a tried routine, not to mention Rollins as the babyface doesn't have the skillset to carry the load. Not saying he can't cut a promo. But he's not a good true-blue baby and it reflects in his talking. They're starting to slide him more toward being conniving/shades of gray with using the chair and low blows. That's better suited to his strengths. But again, don't spend so much 'dead' time upfront that some fans leave before they see the end result.

To me, Raw is like a novelist who needs a strong editor. The material is there. It can work. I think it does fine more than most here do. But the show needs someone who can trim the fat, leaving room for new stories/wrestlers to get time. This needs to be a regular process, not a flash in the pan fix. You gotta give them the reps, both in the ring and on the mic. I listened to Corbin's promo last night and thought it was one of his stronger moments. But that only happened because he gets on TV every week, the practice is there. The same needs to happen for more than the 15-20 wrestlers who know they have secured spots.

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