Craig H Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, OSJ said: Like I said, I tend to read tweets in the voices of those who make them and Seth's voice has always just annoyed me for some reason. As for it being a heelish promo, because I read the tweets in his annoying voice it comes across as whiny and scolding directed toward the people he should be cultivating as supporters. Well...I mean...this sounds like a you problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Craig H said: Well...I mean...this sounds like a you problem... Not going to claim that it isn't. It may well be, but Seth is on the short list of people that I simply cannot abide listening to for any length of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 "I am the best at posting on this board. No other DVDVR poster can post as intelligently as me, as amusingly as me, as insightfully as me." Is that not a heel promo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, AxB said: "I am the best at posting on this board. No other DVDVR poster can post as intelligently as me, as amusingly as me, as insightfully as me." Is that not a heel promo? I would say that it fully depends on who says it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Craig H said: the bitching about Seth Rollins on here is the most tired shit ever. Tired? I have more energy than you can possibly imagine! I'm basically Owen Hart and Koko B. Ware! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, OSJ said: I would say that it fully depends on who says it. Well, yeah. Saying you're better than everyone else is a babyface move if the audience agrees with you. Flair could get away with it. Conor McGregor could. Mohammed Ali, Cristiano Ronaldo. Lawler in Memphis (but not outside of there). But when Platinum Mike Perry says it, people laugh at him. It takes a very rare cocktail of extreme charisma and extreme talent to be a boastful babyface. And Seth Rollins, even though the WWE formula isn't to my taste, I'll happily admit that he's a real talent, an extreme talent on his best day. But extreme charisma? Not his forte. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I was with Seth touting the roster and I’m fine with the champ puffing out his chest, but when he tells Ospreay that Ricochet is a better version of him and calls him “little buddy” he’s just being a dick. That’s been Seth’s issue, he can’t see the line between heel and face bravado. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Also, this is a fun read. https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/wwe-s-history-homophobia-steroids-death-lawsuits-and-more-re-emerge-linda-mcmahon-vetting-document Some new stories to me (I wasn’t watching in the early to mid 2000s). Edited June 24, 2019 by Godfrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Godfrey said: I was with Seth touting the roster and I’m fine with the champ puffing out his chest, but when he tells Ospreay that Ricochet is a better version of him and calls him “little buddy” he’s just being a dick. That’s been Seth’s issue, he can’t see the line between heel and face bravado. How long has Ricochet been under WWE contract? Isn't it only like a year? Does this mean that by Seth's logic, Ricochet sucked in 2017? That if Ospreay left NJPW for WWE, the second the ink dried on his contract he'd instantly improve as a worker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, AxB said: "On the next PPV main event, I won't be Wrestling Baron Corbin. I'll be wrestling Daniel Bryan instead". 4 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: On top of the monkey bars, just like a CrossFit Jesus would be. Hey, if Daniel Bryan can drag Seth to even a ** on top of monkey bars, you wouldn't see me complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, AxB said: "On the next PPV main event, I won't be Wrestling Baron Corbin. I'll be wrestling Daniel Bryan instead". Or Samoa Joe Or Rusev Or Nakamura Or Braun Strowman Or Bobby Lashley Or Aleister Black Or Cesaro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, MORELOCK said: From what I can tell, Rollins wasn't even defending the company itself. The creative process, Vince, the scripted promos - all of the things that play into the "crowd vs. company" dynamic that they've built - none of that was mentioned. He only talked up the in-ring wrestling. While it's clear that many disagree, if we're just talking about the in-ring work, that isn't all that controversial a statement. Last night's PPV matches were all well received here outside of the match that Rollins himself was in. Of the many, many criticisms levied against WWE, very few of them seem to be about the actual in-ring work. If we're talking strictly in-ring, can that many modern-day companies really be seen as that much better than WWE? I could see people arguing NJPW, but others? Fair point, I see your perspective. Maybe I was kinda reading some subtext that wasn't really there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'm pretty sure that people are having such a tough time with this for a pretty simple reason: because Seth Rollins is everything that is wrong with pro wrestling. 2 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Godfrey said: I was with Seth touting the roster and I’m fine with the champ puffing out his chest, but when he tells Ospreay that Ricochet is a better version of him and calls him “little buddy” he’s just being a dick. That’s been Seth’s issue, he can’t see the line between heel and face bravado. I liked Will Ospreay's response: Edited June 24, 2019 by The Natural 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matt D said: I'm pretty sure that people are having such a tough time with this for a pretty simple reason: because Seth Rollins is everything that is wrong with pro wrestling. Well, I'll go out on a limb and say that most of this isn't really Seth's fault, he's been pushed into a spot that he's rather ill-suited for. Let me explain, in the Shield, you had Roman as the strong, mostly silent ass-kicker, you had Ambrose as the talker and Seth as the consummate wrestler who kept quiet most of the time. This played well to the strengths of all three. Once the decision was made to break up the Shield and make Roman the star everything sort of went to shit because you had guys suddenly forced into roles that they weren't really equipped to handle. Roman's proven to be pretty bullet-proof, Moxley's had to leave to reinvent himself leaving Seth pushed as The Guy, when he really lacks the necessary charisma for the role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think it's great that dudes like Ospreay think they're the best or Seth feels he and WWE are or AEW thinks they're the best.. it's a healthy competition that maybe leads to better wrestling in all companies. Not that I think anyone is mailing it in in 2019 (except Nakamura) but it's a good motivational tool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think we might see Bray Wyatt make a live appearance on RAW tonight, his first since Firefly Fun House started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Becky appears to have offered her man some advice on how to get attention by popping off on Twitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) When those two break up, will we have to erase it’s existence from our minds, like Nikki & Cena AKA Nena? Edited June 24, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: When those two break up, will we have to erase it’s exist from our minds, like Nikki & Cena AKA Nena? Those are fond memories that I can look at, but can't touch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Overly Critical Man said: Those are fond memories that I can look at, but can't touch. Personally, I can't see them. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I like that Vince just discovered that real sportsball doesn't go to commercial during play. This XFL relaunch is bearing fruit already. Announcing time limits would be a lot easier way to get your matches in before commercial break. If they leave the clock on the tron, it'll also give people something to count down to during Rollins' matches. I hope Double J has taught Vince about the Fox Box for the SmackDown move. WWE does currently have maybe the most athletically superior roster of all time. They've got like 300 people though so the damn numbers game works out in their favor. They can't present anybody like a star for shit though. They've got to stop listening to the nerds. For all the crying about Punk or Bryan during their pushes, they never moved the needle. The Women's Revolution resulted in a quarter of the female audience leaving. They need to just go back to basics and feed The Big Dog, baby girl. Serve him up a new heel every couple of months and push him down the marks' throats. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BEN! said: If they leave the clock on the tron, it'll also give people something to count down to during Rollins' matches. *chef kiss* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Gorilla Monsoon will roll in his grave if he found out there are now actual timeouts in wrestling lol 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 They need to fill out the show with extremely short matches. Fly in Chris Adams(I think he’s on the roster) to wrestle Braun Strowman for fives minutes, with Chris on offense for 90% of the match, and then Braun wins with a distraction by Glacier(who is still feuding with all the dudes on the roster that use the Cryonic kick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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