Technico Support Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Craig H said: Jericho's podcast voice also sounds like he's doing and impression of Lars Ulrich. So in addition to the transitions being jarring and obvious, it's sounds like Lars trying to sell me on a Quip toothbrush. Again, I just fast forward through them, but it's tedious when the ads are as frequent as they are in Jericho's podcast. I think his podcast is by far the worst when it comes to ad reads and I listen to a lot of podcasts. Oh shit I absolutely agree on the Lars impression. That's hilarious. I'd rather he just front load a bunch and then take one break in the middle like HDTGM does. The only good ad that happens during a wrestling podcast is the Blue Chew ad on Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Technico Support said: The only good ad that happens during a wrestling podcast is the Blue Chew ad on Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling. Lies! Edit: I wish Steve brought that kind of personality into a sneaky heel manager on TV. Edited May 30, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanandlerbong Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Lies! Edit: I wish Steve brought that kind of personality into a sneaky heel manager on TV. I need a damn shower after listening to that. *looks up cougarlife.com* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 My biggest takeaway about the Revival/Sasha/Ambrose/Punk drama is how much the WWE makes the people who love wrestling the most hate wrestling the most. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, supremebve said: My biggest takeaway about the Revival/Sasha/Ambrose/Punk drama is how much the WWE makes the people who love wrestling the most hate wrestling the most. This. A damming indictment of WWE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 This will make you smile: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, The Natural said: This. A damming indictment of WWE. Its also bullshit. There is a difference between disliking WWE's creative nature and hating wrestling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Some random things from Triple H's pre-Takeover conference call that are more main roster focused Quote Jason Powell asked H saying he wants to have a six month plan for talents. It hasn’t happened. Why? H said necessity takes precedence. If the main roster needs talent, that can throw plans out the window. He said when that happens and talents get called up, he’s excited for the talents. He would like to have a plan, but sometimes that doesn’t happen. He compared it to baseball, where talents get called up due to need and circumstance. ---------------------- Dave Meltzer asked about with Tyler Breeze coming in, how about bringing in Harper or Gable, or is that too many main roster guys. H says he goes by feel. What’s enough, what’s too much, you have to feel it out so you aren’t overdoing it. If you do that, you make the brand something that it isn’t. Going forward, is there a feel as to how long he wants people in NXT, like could guys be there for their career now? H said that they are all options as the move forward. As they grow their brands, there will be the opportunity for talents to have good, lucrative careers without ever going to the main roster. He feels that is a very real possibility going forward. Moving around will add longevity to everyone. --------------------------- Nick Hassman asked about the the 24/7 or Women’s Tag Titles being defended in NXT? He said that the possibility is there for both. Sasha and Bayley made an appearance. He said it’s something he would love but it comes down to scheduling. But who knows! --------------------- Sean Sap asked about talents creating their own content on social media. What does he think? He thinks it’s great when talent steps out and creates their brand and enhances it. They encourage it and work with people at the Performance Center on how to do it. He said that they have a large team in place to keep track of it all. He himself can’t keep up with it all but they have a team that keeps up with everything. He referenced Drake Maverick making the Wanted posters on his own and said they thought it was great so they incorporated it into the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Quote Sean Sap asked about talents creating their own content on social media. What does he think? He thinks it’s great when talent steps out and creates their brand and enhances it. They encourage it and work with people at the Performance Center on how to do it. He said that they have a large team in place to keep track of it all. He himself can’t keep up with it all but they have a team that keeps up with everything. He referenced Drake Maverick making the Wanted posters on his own and said they thought it was great so they incorporated it into the show. *Zack Ryder stares deep into the abyss* Edited May 30, 2019 by West Newbury Bad Boy 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: *Zack Ryder stares deeply into the abyss* Ehhhh... They probably give him so many free action figures at this point he has lost his passion to fight for a better spot on the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Eivion said: Its also bullshit. There is a difference between disliking WWE's creative nature and hating wrestling. Jon Moxley clearly hated working there. He pretty much said his only love in life other than his wife is wrestling, and he hated working for the biggest wrestling company in the world. That's not bullshit. Sasha Banks, who loves this shit, decided she'd rather stay home than to continue working for them. Not bullshit. CM Punk said he'd consider himself a failure if he ever wrestled again. Not bullshit. These issues aren't disliking creative, these issues are the WWE taking the love of their life and turning it against them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Moxley's comments are pulled punches compared to the stuff CM Punk said, but it's difficult to see the relationship between Rene Young and WWE ending well. The rumblings seem to suggest insiders are of a similar mind. Presumably WWE actually employs Rene Young, when there are rumblings that WWE "are looking at what to do with her"...well, I think they either need to learn to live with it or come to terms on a release now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Ehhhh... They probably give him so many free action figures at this point he has lost his passion to fight for a better spot on the roster. When I say "abyss," I mean the title belt he has that's so worthless it can't get him consistent TV time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: When I say "abyss," I mean the title belt he has that's so worthless it can't get him consistent TV time. Oh fuck I forgot him and Hawkins had the fucking belts. Poor poor tag division. Edited May 30, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, supremebve said: Jon Moxley clearly hated working there. He pretty much said his only love in life other than his wife is wrestling, and he hated working for the biggest wrestling company in the world. That's not bullshit. Sasha Banks, who loves this shit, decided she'd rather stay home than to continue working for them. Not bullshit. CM Punk said he'd consider himself a failure if he ever wrestled again. Not bullshit. These issues aren't disliking creative, these issues are the WWE taking the love of their life and turning it against them. Yes, they hate working for WWE. WWE is not wrestling, or more to the point it doesn't represent wrestling as a whole. Its a ridiculous statement and idea that fans beyond WWE need to move away from. There is a difference between I don't want to work for WWE, and I hate wrestling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eivion said: Yes, they hate working for WWE. WWE is not wrestling, or more to the point it doesn't represent wrestling as a whole. Its a ridiculous statement and idea that fans beyond WWE need to move away from. There is a difference between I don't want to work for WWE, and I hate wrestling. I think you're being a little needlessly pedantic here, my man. Like I'm sure the workers that WWE beats down still like to go home and watch some NJPW or PWG or whatever. "Made them hate wrestling" is clearly hyperbole for "took something they really loved and turned it into a soul-sucking, uncreative, mind-numbing pile of shit." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, Eivion said: Yes, they hate working for WWE. WWE is not wrestling, or more to the point it doesn't represent wrestling as a whole. Its a ridiculous statement and idea that fans beyond WWE need to move away from. There is a difference between I don't want to work for WWE, and I hate wrestling. Dude, this is the most semantic argument of all time. You are basically arguing that a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square. Everybody knows that. WWE is the top of the wrestling industry, for about 20 years it is the goal for everyone who starts wrestling...especially in the United States. All of these people worked their asses off to reach the top of the industry, and instead of being happy they were made miserable. They reached their goals, were living their dreams, but their love and passion was slowly rung out of them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, supremebve said: Dude, this is the most semantic argument of all time. I think I can top this. Give me a chance! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I wonder what is causing all of this now. Vince is the same as he always was. Is it simply AEW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It's not like the concept of hating what you love when you start doing it professionally is unique to the wrestling industry. I know plenty of people who have started their own business or managed to get a job involving something they're passionate about only to end up so burnt out and tired of it just due to the nature of the industry and associated pressures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Maybe it has to do with most of these wrestlers growing up as ardent fans of wrestling, so they naturally care about the craft in a way that past generations of wrestlers were often athletes from other sports and not wrestling nerds? Obviously, this is not to say that crossover athletes don't care, but that wrestling nerds care deeply in a way that is different. Also, McMahon has only been micromanaging for fifteen, seventeen years, so we're finally seeing the dissent to this creative system that he's established over that time period coming to light now. And for the NXT grads, I also think it's hard to feel like a big deal on NXT, be booked well, and be in hot angles presented around traditional wrestling tropes of wanting to be champion and then come to the main roster and not really have those things so much. Edited May 30, 2019 by Smelly McUgly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 20 hours ago, J.H. said: Gorilla played it off as not being the WWF title but when Heenan said he was representing Flair, Gorilla had the best shocked expression he ever had on TV. He played being legit stunned by Heenan announcing Flair extremely well James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: I wonder what is causing all of this now. Vince is the same as he always was. Is it simply AEW? This is part of it. It's like you're having issues with your significant other. Maybe you just tough it out, you know? But if you're having issues with your SO and then some other person pops up and shows interest in you? There you go. 33 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: Maybe it has to do with most of these wrestlers growing up as ardent fans of wrestling, so they naturally care about the craft in a way that past generations of wrestlers were often athletes from other sports and not wrestling nerds? Obviously, this is not to say that crossover athletes don't care, but that wrestling nerds care deeply in a way that is different. Also, McMahon has only been micromanaging for fifteen, seventeen years, so we're finally seeing the dissent to this creative system that he's established over that time period coming to light now. And for the NXT grads, I also think it's hard to feel like a big deal on NXT, be booked well, and be in hot angles presented around traditional wrestling tropes of wanting to be champion and then come to the main roster and not really have those things so much. And all this. Far, far, FAR fewer workers in the olden days were about the art of it. Guys like Bret Hart were considered "marks" for caring too much. And you're 100% spot on about Vince's system. He's fine tuned it over the years into the dull, homogenized, perfect sports entertainment content delivery system you see before you. It's finally exactly what he wanted and it's just as boring for those inside as it is for those outside. Wrestlers who spent years trying to get to the WWE are just realizing this is not the WWE they were shooting for all this time. Edited May 30, 2019 by Technico Support 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: I wonder what is causing all of this now. Vince is the same as he always was. Is it simply AEW? Times change. Vince is who he's always been, but he's twenty years older than he was at his peak (depending on how you define his peak). I don't care how active and fit you are, you're not going to be as sharp as you were and even a normal person (as opposed to an isolated billionaire) will have missed a few steps culturally. It's not so shocking that he's out of touch with his younger generation of performers and the audience they're connecting with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 BTW, I listened at 2x Speed and the only time I went back to hear something again because I wasn't sure, was this: "That’s the thing that Vince hated about this whole situation, why it was so bizarre and there were so many ups and downs - cause he has no control. Because I told him I don’t care how many zeros you want to put on a piece of paper, I am gone. And he just got - he’s got the million dollar man complex. He has to be able to buy everyt - he’s got to be able - that’s why he pays Brock billions of dollars to come in and ruin his company, cause he wants to own Brock. He wants to be like, ‘Ah, Brock’s my attraction,’ you know? A guy he has no power over - me - he didn’t know how to handle it. So it was like, it went in a bunch of different weird crazy directions over five months." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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