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1 hour ago, GodzillaPerez said:

WWE is partnering up with Nestle for a summer promotion because they found a shitty company that they weren't doing business with and had to rectify that.

What Nestle product? Because when I think of Nestle I think confectionary, and WWE's already got that Snickers deal. 

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2 hours ago, ka-to said:

Didn't Gorilla Monsoon say that he didn't know who Flair was and that he had a fake belt that Heenan gave him? Not quite the red carpet.

Gorilla played it off as not being the WWF title but when Heenan said he was representing Flair, Gorilla had the best shocked expression he ever had on TV. He played being legit stunned by Heenan announcing Flair extremely well

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6 hours ago, The Natural said:

People here have shared moving stories of loved ones with cancer and those who sadly passed away from it. I lost my best friend to the big c, only 26. I dread to think what the line was that was so offensive, Jon Moxley wouldn't say it and might have lost sponsors as a result. Awful exploitation of someone fighting for their life. As ever, fuck cancer.

He doesn't come out and say it directly, but it's easy to make the connection between Ambrose talking about the Make-A-Wish stuff being the thing he most valued in WWE and his frustration at being forced to make those comments. I mean, I doubt he was worried about insulting Roman or whatever, and it sounded like that it was more about some kids he'd met along the way.

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Just finished the Moxley podcast, and I thought it was a great listen. I felt bad for him telling the stories of what sounds like a soul crushing atmosphere in WWE. I've had that same sickness in the pit of my stomach about the last funeral home I worked in. It was such a toxic, unhealthy environment that I dreaded going in and it made my depression and anxiety so much worse. It ultimately killed my passion for a business I cared so much about and felt like I was making a difference in. I'm genuinely happy for Moxley. The excitememt in his voice makes me excited for him.

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44 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

I'm waiting for the movie. 

I'll be played by Brendan Fraser (circa "Mummy" franchise) (so I've been told).

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6 hours ago, Doc Townsend said:

Jericho stopping the show to shill products every 20 minutes was hilarious.  Jericho trying to talk me into buying kitty litter was not something I expected to hear today.

 

Jericho shilling cat litter was my favorite one. I think it was Arm & Hammer, which is pretty good litter. I clean the litter boxes everyday, so my home doesn't smell like cats. I had a friend I had to stop hanging out with because his house smelled like the litter boxes. The dude had a lot of cats. We also stopped hanging out because he was raising his son by himself. We used to do blow together, but he stopped to be a father while I wasn't ready to stop partying yet.

What I just wrote would make a hell of a cat litter commercial. That's gold, Jerry. GOLD!

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24 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Just finished the Moxley podcast, and I thought it was a great listen. I felt bad for him listening to the stories of what sounds like a soul crushing atmosphere in WWE. I've had that same sickness in the pit of my stomach about the last funeral home I worked in. It was such a toxic, unhealthy atmosphere that I dreaded going in and it made my depression and anxiety so much worse. It ultimately killed my passion for a business I cared so much about and felt like I was making a difference in. I'm genuinely happy for Moxley. The excitememt in his voice makes me excited for him.

I Pastor now, but years ago I also worked in a funeral home because I wanted to assist with bereavement for families / provide family service at gravesides. At the end, I dreaded going to work because it was such a snake pit environment. I get it.

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43 minutes ago, Casey said:

She's fine apparently, but Rachael Evers was hit by a drunk driver today while she was on her way home from the Performance Center.

Best part of the story is she chased the dude down on foot and got a fantastic photo. lol

 

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2 hours ago, Firebreaker Chip said:

I was glad to hear Ambrose take some time to deride the annoyingly persistent bullshit that current WWE guys' big problem is that they don't take time to establish a relationship with Vince and pitch him ideas, as if he wouldn't just scream "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU" and chase 95% of them out of his office

What did he say about Austin? I missed that

 

I’m pretty sure that was the dig at Austin. While it may have been, he’s certainly not the only Attitude Era guy to talk about needing to establish a relationship with Vince. Even Jericho has made that comment before on his pod.

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Jericho shilling was hilarious. It worked. I kinda want steak now.

I didn't love the kayfabe opening right before...a very non-kayfabe expose of backstage dealings. It was dissonant. 

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1 hour ago, Doc Townsend said:

Jericho stopping the show to shill products every 20 minutes was hilarious.  Jericho trying to talk me into buying kitty litter was not something I expected to hear today.

 

FWIW all the ad spots are taped separately but Jericho does it in a way that sounds like an extension of the conversation. I'd love it if he tried to do them live during interviews, maybe let his guest ad lib a little it. Moxley talking about cat litter would've been golden, I'm sure. 

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The Ambrose podcast is wildly damning. It's every criticism we've levied against the WWE for the last few years all rolled up in one. Every possible fan criticism which we just sort of speculated on but couldn't possibly know about for sure, or couldn't know it was quite so bad. Suffering Succotash times 1000. It's basically every possible take on Vince except for "He's blind now!" It's one thing to see the second-hand evidence of it. It's another to just hear story after story after story of what the environment's like in there, even for someone who constantly pushes back and stands up for himself. I think, if anything, people are underplaying it.

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Moxley was classy in the way he didn’t shit on any of the workers. He just shitted on the old man’s outdated lame storytelling, and the process it takes to flex his creative muscles.

He did totally get the drop on the company by doing something I’ve hardly heard of wrestlers doing, and that’s creating a big budget trailer for himself without the company knowing. I can imagine this will be a big thing in the future for soon to be released wrestlers. 

I mean think about it. Titan owns your name. Why not spend a little extra cash to produce ads announcing to your following that not only are you still working, but announce your new identity(or old, in Moxley’s case). Sure it won’t work for everybody, but for a Dean Ambrose it’s perfect. 

I think this release has stung a lot for the WWE. Even with all the PR spin to control the story by them, Jon & AEW still got the best out of this situation.

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11 hours ago, MORELOCK said:

"Vince is out of touch in several different ways" =/= "Literally every bad thing and borderline insane conspiracy we've ever had about Vince is true"

 

26 minutes ago, Matt D said:

The Ambrose podcast is wildly damning. It's every criticism we've levied against the WWE for the last few years all rolled up in one. Every possible fan criticism which we just sort of speculated on but couldn't possibly know about for sure, or couldn't know it was quite so bad.

Hive Mind? Not here, brother.

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