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6 hours ago, Eivion said:

Didn't Ibushi say he turned down AEW? 

It's tough following this emotional roller coaster. Maybe Ibushi is pushing away because it's the only way he can make it through this

Five years later, Kota is a famous IWPG Champion and is super cool with to another man, Jay White, with whom they have a daughter. One night, the buds stumble upon a video game bar. Noticing the "Omega" logo he had once seen regular, Kota realizes Kenny has opened his club. When Kenny Omega notices Kota Ibushi in the crowd, he plays their friendship theme on the Street Fighter 2, and a dream sequence unfolds in which the two imagine what might have been had both their relationship and their careers thrived together in AEW. Ibushi shares a poignant smile with Kenny, then leaves with Jay White.

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1 hour ago, Ryan said:

That Moxley shirt is already PWTees best selling shirt of the whole month and 9th best selling individual shirt of the year.

I believe he was one of the top sellers on WWE Shop his whole time there.  People who tried to minimize his signing..   I don't know I think it was a smart move.

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19 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said:

Even doing hokey shit, Ambrose was the most reliable big pop generator in WWE for a few years.

Will be curious to see if he drops the Les Kellett reboud lariat from his regular moveset.

Did he do that stupid move as Moxley?

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10 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said:

Even doing hokey shit, Ambrose was the most reliable big pop generator in WWE for a few years.

Will be curious to see if he drops the Les Kellett reboud lariat from his regular moveset.

He should drop the rebound lariat. That move fucked Nigel McGuinness pretty good. At least, Nigel finally made it to WWE, and like Corey Graves can have a long career as an announcer.

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Just now, Curt McGirt said:

Personally I thought it would have been hilarious if he did that to Jericho, just to troll the people that hate it.

There should have been a potted plant under the ring for Moxley to wallop Jericho with.

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He should drop the rebound lariat. That move fucked Nigel McGuinness pretty good. At least, Nigel finally made it to WWE, and like Corey Graves can have a long career as an announcer.

Nigel’s issues were more that he would go full force with his Lairat’s, and hit about seven of them per match. Moxley’s look a lot softer. In fact Moxley’s offense has always looked  pretty safe in general.

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5 hours ago, For Great Justice said:

I can’t help but resurrect the old “why doesn’t WWE just let people cut promos” talking point. Moxley can do that, he could always do that, and WWE signed the dude largely because he COULD do that. So why didn’t they just tell the guy to cut a promo and get out of the way? 

Just crazy.  

The short answer is that they didnt understand what they had, either from ignorance or because they didn’t want to. They’re completely content to let Seth Rollins drone on for segments at a time, tailspinning ratings, but send a fiery, intense performer to go cut the type promos that have spurred the greatest boon periods in the businesses history? Nah. Let’s send him to the ring in a fucking gas mask.

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Even leaving Ambrose aside, WWE has had arguably its most talented roster ever for the last 5-6 years but are so scared to let anyone just be themselves.  Look at all the NXT call ups who were on fire who have just stalled on the main roster.  It’s incredible.  Even guys like Drew and Lashley who were major highlights in Impact and elsewhere come off as second rate.

Thats why I’m so intrigued to see Raw tonight.  Vince might just think AEW might be more competition for NXT than the main show and not change anything. On the other hand he might go crazy and loosen the reigns on the talent.

Raw might do a decent viewership of people looking to see if there is a reaction to AEW

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5 hours ago, MORELOCK said:

No one ever lives the gimmick anymore. 

Dino from DDT? Seriously you have no idea how disappointed I was when I found out one of the guys from the Christopher Street Connection had fathered several kids.

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32 minutes ago, sabremike said:

Dino from DDT? Seriously you have no idea how disappointed I was when I found out one of the guys from the Christopher Street Connection had fathered several kids.

We found RF wasn't just working a gimmick as the Fun Athletic Guy.

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4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

We found RF wasn't just working a gimmick as the Fun Athletic Guy.

But what about Ric Feinberg???

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So imagine if you created a wrestling character. This guy was a former Olympic quality amateur wrestler who lost his dream because he was a victim in a bank robbery. Legit tough guy. Now he's back, chasing his dream to be WWE champ, his one last chance at greatness. This guy wouldn't have to cut long promos, he could just talk about that stuff right there, his real experiences and that could last for a year whether he won the title or not. I'm not a writer, that guy is Lashley. 

And however long that lasts, if he doesn't win, you just turn him into a bitter heel about the whole thing. And maybe you run out of ideas and turn him into "guy that shows his ass to the crowd to get (heat?). I doubt any person could talk in depth at all about Lashley's character and who he is supposed to be on screen. 

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Impact is the only company that's managed to harness charisma from Lashley. He's got a great look and is okay in the ring, but he doesn't connect with people.

 

 

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Lashley was also a great straight man in the Steiner feud years earlier, in TNA. Although the greatness of the feud was mostly Steiner being Steiner at his least restrained.

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Just let him be that guy again. Coming out in a suit and shades, say he's gonna beat everyone's ass and then does exactly that. I always wish the full segment of this was online 'cause it was damn good. He was killer on the mic and in the ring throughout 2016. Impact just used him so much better, of course same for EC3 among others.

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First guy to pin the Undertaker clean on PPV. Main evented a big 4 PPV. Former KOTR winner. Went over in two Mania title matches. A fondly remembered character of the attitude era. Snorted coke off a limo. Responsible for the introduction of Oscar. Arguably the best pushed 100% African American in the history of WWE.

We need to talk about Mabel' s HOF credentials.

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18 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said:

First guy to pin the Undertaker clean on PPV. Main evented a big 4 PPV. Former KOTR winner. Went over in two Mania title matches. A fondly remembered character of the attitude era. Snorted coke off a limo. Responsible for the introduction of Oscar. Arguably the best pushed 100% African American in the history of WWE.

We need to talk about Mabel' s HOF credentials.

One negative:  Used dry humping as a transition move.  That's a finisher in Mexico, baby.

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