BrianS81177 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 What Dreamer said was stupid and reprehensible, but I've seen and heard enough stories about him being a nice person that I won't condemn him to hell for it. Let him miss this next set of Impact tapings, go to some sensitivity training and issue a public apology and that should be good enough. But the internet being the internet, I'm sure there's already a video of someone burning hin in effigy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 20 hours ago, AxB said: So when Dreamer said that Flair could helicopter his dick just by moving his hips, and that reason he could do that was because he had a big one... is it just me who thought "But surely everyone can do that"? I instantly thought of Randy Marsh and "Cock Magic" I then thought "Dreamer can't do this" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 19 hours ago, Octopus said: Brutus Beefcake talking about The Rockers using H-Bombs ugh. How common was this? Many, Many shoot interviews would talk about the Rockers using H-Bombs on girls at bars. Never heard of them using them on other wrestlers. Probably didn't have the balls to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AxB said: Here’s a quote… Quote “They took my $500 shoes and $1000 suit and ruined it in the shower because I didn’t go out drinking at a bar the night before because nobody invited me. That’s just materialistic sh*t you can replace that, that doesn’t bother me. What really bothered me is when in Italy the next night they took my French flag – my heritage – they shoved it in a toilet and p*ssed and sh*t all over it. I don’t know what bullsh*t world you live in but in my world that’s called racial discrimination. That was really hurtful.” - Renee Dupree He knows he’s Canadian, right? Edited September 20, 2021 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: I think giving people recreational drugs(especially if they are new to them) is pretty sketchy too. There's definably a difference between doing your vice of choice and trying to get someone blacked out to take advantage of them. Unfortunatly too many people seem not to make that distinction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Here’s a quote… He knows he’s Canadian, right? His grandparents were French immigrants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Young wrestling fans are finally digging through the shit we already knew about and I shudder to think where their minds are going to be after "Shawn Michaels was a serial rapist" becomes common knowledge. Edited September 20, 2021 by John E. Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 For those interested, one of the Dark Side producers was on JC's pod discussing the episode and some of the Side issues (Dreamer, Ross, ...). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The funny part is it's Cornette's podcast. I'm watching Dynamite since I missed all but the main on Wednesday right now and I'm wondering how many "WOO"s we are gonna hear for chops after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Well, JC is friends with the producers and they promoted the entire new season (felt like an hour). JC still gave him grief for going the death match episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Crazy to think the majority of the greats were pricks. Hogan-racist Shawn- what didn't Shawn do Bret- Had girls in every town while married (I'm sure most did) Flair- Hellicoptering girls around the world Taker- Bullying people into shitting and pissing on another guys clothes and flag Benoit- Murderer Snuka- Murderer We need to look to the rafters for Real Estate Steve to save our great sport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Casey said: His grandparents were French immigrants. French is a race? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said: Crazy to think the majority of the greats were pricks. It’s less weird when you think of them as carny transients who also just happened to be on national tv every week, and that someone who could persevere in such a fickle and sordid industry had to be a self-regarding maniac. Honestly, wrestling locker rooms being inherited by a bunch of jacked up video game nerds was for the best. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said: We need to look to the rafters for Real Estate Steve to save our great sport. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 To quickly go back to the whole "was Vince on the flight or not" thing On one of the two weekend radio shows - Meltzer said that he is pretty sure that (as seen by the Kurt Angle posts here) people are conflating multiple flights from Europe which, as Dave says "Shit happened" (He did note that this Flight was the worst one) When Dave wrote about it in the WON all the way back when it was happening he said multiple people said Vince wasn't on the flight (as Meltzer said, this was when their memories were fresh) and as Dave put it "I would trust what I wrote then as opposed to people's 20 year old memories" He also said multiple people contacted him since the doc came out to say they were "pretty sure Vince wasn't on the flight" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Here’s a quote… He knows he’s Canadian, right? If someone had stolen Little Guido's Italian Flag and pissed and shit on it, that would have been just fine? If someone had stolen a Mexican flag off Eddy or Rey and pissed and shit on it, that would have been just fine? If someone had messed with Fit Finlay's Irish Flag... ok, nobody would be that stupid, never mind. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) I would say what they did to the French flag was an improvement. Did the Bone Street Krew shit, and pee on Fifi? That’s the million dollar question. Edited September 20, 2021 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 They were only a few years removed from Shawn sticking the Canadian flag up his nose and humping it. This was also presumably during the time of Freedom Fries and all of that dipshit animosity. It feels like a tactic they’d use on the young guys to see how’d they react, and if they got upset at being violated then they’re the ones with the attitude problem and get heat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 To quote someone from this board "Flair is the clown that doesn't know when to take the makeup off" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Tommy Dreamer seemed to eager to talk and not at all cognizant of how the footage was going t make him look. I'm wondering how savvy he is dealing with media. He's been involved with creative in a couple different companies, i think, so I'd hope he was a little savvy, but, then again, maybe not. He seemed like he needed someone to look our for his interests and pull him aside to remind him "those guys are not your friends." Honestly, i wouldn't mind if people stopped cooperating with DSotR. I feel like they've leaned hard into the tabloid trash aspect of the show. Didn't feel like the first two seasons were as lurd/exploitative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Finally watched it yesterday morning! First why is anyone surprised that an over 45 straight dude like Tommy Dreamer said what he said, they could have interviewed 50 guys who were on that plane and 75% would have said nearly the same thing as Dreamer, that type of toxic masculinity/misogyny isn't something reserved to old pro wrestlers it's still a huge part of our culture, hopefully more dudes have an RVD moment where they realize that kind of garbage is evil. Will anyone ever call out Jim Ross on his "I was following orders" or "boys will be boys" excuses? The "boys will be boys" bs is laughable since everyone on that plane was over 30. The thing is we didn't even hear everything that happened since only one of the Flight Attendants told her story, had the other one been interviewed it seems that Dustin Rhodes would have gotten his AEW walking papers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Jim Ross was somewhat blessed to not be able to emote properly anymore. For a normal person it’s a horrible thing. For a carny it’s a tool. Quote Will anyone ever call out Jim Ross on his "I was following orders" or "boys will be boys" excuses? The "boys will be boys" bs is laughable since everyone on that plane was over 30. But, over 30 year olds with three carts worth of booze. Yeah, you try calm down 300 pound roid monkeys hopped up on drugs, and liquor. Age doesn’t stop people acting in ways that cross boundaries. Edited September 20, 2021 by LoneWolf&Subs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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