Jump to content
DVDVR Message Board
Lawful Metal

Puroresu General Discussion for 2019

Recommended Posts

Assorted stuff

AJPW:

Nomura will be the inheritor of the new Royal Road.

W-1:

Soya wants to bring back WAR but as a unit. Wild and Romance.

Other:
There will be a wrestling convention on Jan 5th.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What do you think about having two general discussion threads in 2020: one for NJ and one for everything else?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I try to create threads for some of the NJPW stuff, but I guess lower importance stuff could really go to general discussion thread, while doing separate threads only for big shows and BotSJ/G1.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Watching the September Nomura/Miyahara match and it reminds me of the point put forth by Joe Lanza of Voices of Wrestling that I have previously mentioned in the past. Miyahara is more Kenny Omega than he is Okada or Tanahashi. The over-the-top presentation, facial reactions, body movement, shouting during lock-ups, knee spamming, one hit kill finisher, and I'm sure more that I'm missing. People deride Omega for his silly faces (and don't get me wrong, I wish he would tone it down too) but Miyahara is pretty much universally praised and I don't think I've ever heard somebody speak ill towards him. I love both of their work, so I'm cool with that but do you think Miyahara gets a free pass because he flies under the radar of a lot of the people who hold bad views? Is it because he's Japanese and the weeaboo Elite haters don't feel the need to bother? Miyahara does work a more traditionally Japanese style than Omega but brother be spamming the knee an awful lot late in match too. I'd also consider Miyahara a more consistent wrestler than Omega, though since Dynamite started I think Omega's usually put his best foot forward most of the time. But neither of those things would answer my question. Why does Miyahara get away with a lot of stuff Omega and others catch flack for? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Anti-Winnipeg bias.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've watched three Miyahara title matches and left disappointed each time mainly for the reasons you highlighted, so I guess there is at least one of us?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

To each their own. I really dug that Nomura/Miyahara match. I think it would be a mistake for Jake Lee to dethrone Kento. Nomura should be the main Miyahara rival. In comparison to the BOSJ final, there was way more selling and storytelling going on in the TC match though Miyahara did catch Nomura several times after Naoya hit him with huge moves. I wasn't bothered though because Miyahara basically stayed down for over a minute each time and was "playing possum" with the naive Nomura, who himself was recovering from the prolonged ass whipping Miyahara dished out. The speed of the counter dance between Shingo and Ospreay was wild though. Completely different styles and I'd probably lean towards the TC match because of the pacing. Both great but a notch below my two full five boys from this year.

Gonna peep Sareeeeee/Chihiro from June next. I watched the finishing sequence after people were going gaga for it once it dropped and I remember really digging what I saw.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

DDT Grand Prix spoilers:

Spoiler

8. D-Ou Grand Prix 2020 – Final: Masato Tanaka defeated Tetsuya Endo with the Sliding D (23:57).

d0a.gif

Tanaka vs. HARASHIMA for the KO-D Openweight Title January 26th. They claimed over 2000 at Korakuen so that's cool.

 

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wish AJP would get bigger money backers and then they could land on TBS or Fuji Tv.  Lot of money is needed to pay to stay on those networks. To rent bigger buildings as well.

More money will give them tv ads for more exposure.

I know kidani has no interest in buying AJP,  because he said he would rather see AJP grow on its own. But there's limits to growth without better tv and etc.



 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not in a snarky way but I wonder who is going to go to the Dave Meltzer appearance at Toudoukan on the 4th.

https://www.toudoukan.com/page/$/page_id/4998/

I'll be in Tokyo from the 31st to the 2nd. I'm thinking about going to a show but nothing really strikes me as definite go to. Would have liked to be able to go to the 1/3 AJPW show with the Miyahara/Lee main but I can't stretch my trip out that long. Any recommendations? Maybe Z-1 at Korakuen. But that's mainly just to say I went to Korakuen.

https://en.puwota.com/index.cgi?202001

Edit: Just to be clear, I live in Japan so I'm just thinking about the shows during that window when I'm in Tokyo.

Edited by lostinube

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like Uncle Dave. I’ve always found him interesting and fairly on the money. That said, listening to him is like pulling teeth. I can’t fathom spending $30 to hear him go ‘umm, err, let me check my notes’ for 2 hours.

The 1/1 Z1 is always the New Years hangover show especially as it’s usually at lunchtime. That said, Hino and Okabayashi are guaranteed to leather the piss out of each other so that would probably make your trip to Korakuen there.

I’d try and go to the AJPW on 1/2. AJPW shows are almost always my favourite shows when I go to Tokyo due to the great wrestling and clean finishes. Doubling up with the evening BJW show is always a done deal for me. Always sold out, hot crowd and usually a couple of tip top matches.

 

 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The marathon tag team tournament never seems to disappoint and would be a neat experience to attend even just a part of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Those shows are pretty fun, if long. Always builds to an excellent main. Bring some snacks and a few beers and you’ll have a good night

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, lostinube said:

Not in a snarky way but I wonder who is going to go to the Dave Meltzer appearance at Toudoukan on the 4th.

https://www.toudoukan.com/page/$/page_id/4998/

I'll be in Tokyo from the 31st to the 2nd. I'm thinking about going to a show but nothing really strikes me as definite go to. Would have liked to be able to go to the 1/3 AJPW show with the Miyahara/Lee main but I can't stretch my trip out that long. Any recommendations? Maybe Z-1 at Korakuen. But that's mainly just to say I went to Korakuen.

https://en.puwota.com/index.cgi?202001

Edit: Just to be clear, I live in Japan so I'm just thinking about the shows during that window when I'm in Tokyo.

Ribbonmania on 31st. Big Japan on 2nd. 

 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 12/28/2019 at 12:28 AM, Oyaji said:

To each their own. I really dug that Nomura/Miyahara match. I think it would be a mistake for Jake Lee to dethrone Kento. Nomura should be the main Miyahara rival.

While I think Nomura is probably having better matches with Kento than Jake is, I think him bypassing Jake would pretty much kill Jake's career for the near future.

It's too bad that Violent Giants won the tag league, since it would have made lots of sense--given that both Jake and Nomura have challenged Kento recently--to have JIN challenge for, and win, the tag titles. That would give them something to do until the CC, at least.

Anyway, given the actual booking, I think they may as well put the title on Jake and let him defend it through to the CC, which Nomura could win. Then let them fight for the TC in the summer and put it on whoever seems to have more fan support.  Kento can focus on his team with Aoyagi. They probably won't do that, though, since they seem intent on having Kento break the record for consecutive TC defences.

Related note: I'm worried that the "New God" who is going to join the God Army is Gianni Valetta. AJ hasn't booked any foreigners for the January shows, but UTAMARO has hinted, on Twitter, that the God is from overseas. (On the other hand, this could just mean Zeus, since he's a Greek god. Still, it would be weird, since Zeus is booked for a tag defence on the same show).

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the recs everyone.

I'm probably going to the Z-1 show. Have plans on the 2nd and the BJW show that day might be cutting it close to my bus time.

Thought about Ribbonmania but I'll be in Yokohama for the live SASUKE/Ninja Warrior Final Stage run and meeting friends.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems like NOAH dropped the Navigation names for shows. And are dropping the Great Voyage names for shows.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

UTAMARO’s training regime is really something.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The new god will be the returning Zodiac.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How the hell does Muto look younger than Zeus facially.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wizard Magicks.

Anyway DDTBJW

6a799335.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...