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You know how Daniel Bryan's new gimmick is an exaggerated bullying version of a liberal snowflake millenial stereotype? If Mike Kanellis wasn't there, he could be getting a lot of heat by insisting on being called Daniel Bella-Bryan. Accusing every married man in the arena of not respecting women enough and that.

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Dolph Ziggler - There has been a lot of talk in the last week that Ziggler is done with WWE after turning down an offer to become a producer. His last appearance was the beat-down he took in a steel cage on Raw against Drew McIntyre last month.  He has removed the Dolph Ziggler name from his social media and is embarking on a comedy tour soon. He has not been on the road for WWE in recent weeks.

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3 hours ago, AxB said:

You know how Daniel Bryan's new gimmick is an exaggerated bullying version of a liberal snowflake millenial stereotype? If Mike Kanellis wasn't there, he could be getting a lot of heat by insisting on being called Daniel Bella-Bryan. Accusing every married man in the arena of not respecting women enough and that.

I mean, there's a pretty good chance most of the WWE's fan base doesn't even know who Mike Kanellis is at this point.

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As someone who mostly missed out on the wrestlers jumping ship stuff of the Monday Night Wars (got back into wrestling in 99, IWC the year after), I'm finding all of the speculation and rumours to be fascinating. It's something that's long been missing from the wrestling world.

My random thought: Would it make business sense for WWE to unload a bunch of junk onto the market right now in the knowledge that AEW need to bulk up their roster? If WWE release, say, guys like the Colons, B-Team, Mojo Rawley and other guys of that level, it's possible that AEW would pick them up thereby spending money on guys who may not get over and therefore would actually be a waste of money (although Khan probably has deep pockets) and time. AEW probably has to be careful on who they pick up in the future so they don't get hit with a 'WWE cast-offs' label.

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Regarding that... (from the newest WON)

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WWE and Vince McMahon right now are going very hard on trying to avoid the idea that people want to leave, or the concept being in the business that people can get more money leaving or benefit from leaving, particularly after people like Juice Robinson, Jericho and Cody all clearly did. That’s why Lesnar keeps getting better offers to keep him from UFC, and why guys who they were doing nothing with that were unhappy are starting to get pushes because there are viable options for them to leave. The worst is one of these guys leaves and becomes an Okada, because then you look like TNA. Unlike everyone else in this game, WWE has no financial issues because they are structured for gigantic profits going forward and can and will stockpile talent even if they don’t have a definite idea of how to use them effectively. AEW has an ownership group with money that blows away that of Vince McMahon, but wrestling isn’t their only business, their prime business and they are not structured in a way they can turn the kind of profit or make the level of money where they can spend gigantic to get everyone and still be profitable like WWE can. Really, until they are up and running and fully established, everything with AEW is a crap shoot whereas WWE can double triple everyone’s salary tomorrow and not blink an eye because the lack of competition has artificially kept salaries ridiculously low based on the revenue generated

 

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Reasons Why I Should Never Get The Book, part #329: If I had the pencil at ROH or AEW, I would immediately announce the signing of the newest superstar: Charlotte's Mole. Angry at being rejected and discarded, this Melanoma Of the Mat, this Carbuncle of Combat, the Grappling Growth has a lot to prove and talent to burn. "I have been cast aside but now we will see who the real talent is. Watch me grow! Whooo!!!".

- RAF

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2 minutes ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said:

Reasons Why I Should Never Get The Book, part #329: If I had the pencil at ROH or AEW, I would immediately announce the signing of the newest superstar: Charlotte's Mole. Angry at being rejected and discarded, this Melanoma Of the Mat, this Carbuncle of Combat, the Grappling Growth has a lot to prove and talent to burn. "I have been cast aside but now we will see who the real talent is. Watch me grow! Whooo!!!".

- RAF

I think Chikara would be ideal for that.

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I am thinking Charlotte's Mole works as a manager, attached to the cheek of the wrestler it is in charge of. The in-ring advice it could give would be invaluable, and it could be it's own foreign object. Only it's client can hear it so it is perfect for strategizing during the match. If it came down to isolating it at ringside for too much interference, the promotion wouldn't have to handcuff it to a babyface or get a shark cage, they could just use a Petri dish.

- RAF

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9 hours ago, Beech27 said:

Mike and Maria should be received as conquering heroes on the indies. They presumably signed for a decent number, got WWE to pay for rehab (the results of which have apparently stuck), surgery, and a pregnancy, all while contributing as little as possible to the product. Anyone who has ever worked for a massive corporation should aspire to something like this.

Don't think you have to be in WWE for them to pay for your rehab. He might have been able to get that just from Maria being an alumni.

2 hours ago, Swiftian said:

As someone who mostly missed out on the wrestlers jumping ship stuff of the Monday Night Wars (got back into wrestling in 99, IWC the year after), I'm finding all of the speculation and rumours to be fascinating. It's something that's long been missing from the wrestling world.

My random thought: Would it make business sense for WWE to unload a bunch of junk onto the market right now in the knowledge that AEW need to bulk up their roster? If WWE release, say, guys like the Colons, B-Team, Mojo Rawley and other guys of that level, it's possible that AEW would pick them up thereby spending money on guys who may not get over and therefore would actually be a waste of money (although Khan probably has deep pockets) and time. AEW probably has to be careful on who they pick up in the future so they don't get hit with a 'WWE cast-offs' label.

The thing is the Colons are junk. Nether is Rawley really. The former are good, just never really used outside of multi-team tag matches and always have Puerto Rico to fall back on if they really wanted something different for themselves. Rawley has shown to be a good promo and more serviceable in the ring than most would admit. If he were to actually make a go of it on the indies he might improve like Masters did. Both members of the B-team have family names to fall back on. They aren't too much worse in the ring than Cody, but in a different environment/mindset for all anyone knows they could turn out like Juice.

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29 minutes ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said:

I am thinking Charlotte's Mole works as a manager, attached to the cheek of the wrestler it is in charge of. The in-ring advice it could give would be invaluable, and it could be it's own foreign object. Only it's client can hear it so it is perfect for strategizing during the match. If it came down to isolating it at ringside for too much interference, the promotion wouldn't have to handcuff it to a babyface or get a shark cage, they could just use a Petri dish.

- RAF

Charlotte's Mole, the York Foundation's laptop, and Rocco for CHIKARA trios team. 

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22 minutes ago, Eivion said:

Don't think you have to be in WWE for them to pay for your rehab. He might have been able to get that just from Maria being an alumni.

Correct

Recent examples

Karen Angle Jarrett was the one who reached out the WWE about paying for Jeff's rehab after his falling out with Impact

Adam Rose had his rehab paid for by them and that after he was gone from the company

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