Rehabilitated Rick Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Also if the plan is for Dean to feud with Nia then fans would absolutely revolt against it. Major media publications picking up the story concerning Dean leaving and acknowledging he's pissed off with hokey storylines and shitty creative, only to then go into Mania facing Nia Jax would be spectacularly tone-deaf. Dean has all the leverage here. WWE purposefully shitting on one of their biggest stars on his way out would do a great deal to sour fans on the product going forward, and with AEW on the scene, heads will turn if they did manage to sign Ambrose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think he's seen how Daniel Bryan's gotten so much creative freedom and figured he'd trying and see if he could get the same, he's not at Bryan's level politically but he is one of the more highly valued Raw talents. It's not like he doesn't have valid arguments about the silly shit, especially when you compare to the way he was booked before the first Sheild split. They've used him at times they way they use Midcard comedy acts. And he was already in the doghouse saying Brock Lesnar didnt want to give him shine in his highest profile match at that point , can you blame him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said: And then he doesn’t actually re-sign and goes elsewhere anyway for the full Pillman experience Jon Moxley going full-Pillman in AEW would be awesome. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I can’t decide if I think it’s a work or not. I’d almost gotten excited about him closing “All In 2” by staring down the PAC/Page winner. If it’s a story to get him to triple h, it’s a pretty good one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 My favorite thing to come out of this so far: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Do people really want to see another HHH Mania match? Isn’t he tired of getting mediocre reactions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Don’t we always think it’s a work when we hear someone wants to leave? It never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Do people really want to see another HHH Mania match? Isn’t he tired of getting mediocre reactions? I honestly can't say I've ever really wanted to see another HHH match. He's the very definition of mediocre, and lucky as fuck Stephanie fell for him. He should stick to nxt getting loud chants. I love proud nxt Papa H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, offspring515 said: Don’t we always think it’s a work when we hear someone wants to leave? It never is. Exactly. I'm going with the Authors of Pain principle. The most obvious explanation is usually the right one. He wants out and he believes he can be better elsewhere. People who have tried to pull the Pillman angle are so forgotten, you guys still call it the Pillman angle. An angle from 23 years ago. That blew up in WCW's face by the way. At least the Punk angle was "I'm winning the title and I'm leaving." Dean just wants out. Also, I love HHH behind the scenes. I never want to see him in the ring again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I am thinking that since ESPN is now involved in the reporting that this wouldn't be a work. If it turns out to be a work I would think ESPN would be leery of working too closely with WWE in the future. I do think he could do some really fun things as Moxley in AEW but for the love of God keep him and Jericho away from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I dunno, Jericho is tired as anyone but him and Ambrose would have a total gorefest. Remember, Ambrose is the guy who sewed his own nipple back on after a match... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, TheVileOne said: We need more moments like this on Raw. That was the moment Sterling James Keenan should have gotten a kick to the fucking balls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ambrose on Raw was either being left high and dry by Seth or put basically zero effort into hiding getting into position for stuff and just waiting there, so either that was some next level work or he was very checked out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I can't see Ambrose not working anywhere- he's in his prime years and I don't think he's got CM Punk/Sting/Alex Wright/JBL money. Lot of good possibilities now if you don't want to be in WWE- ROH would probably offer $250k minimum, AEW even more, and NJPW might open the wallet for him hard. Ambrose G1 run followed by a few months trolling say Naito or Minoru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, clintthecrippler said: I am thinking that since ESPN is now involved in the reporting that this wouldn't be a work. If it turns out to be a work I would think ESPN would be leery of working too closely with WWE in the future. If it's a work most likely he'll sign on TV. They can work it like when Bret Resigned and challenged Austin in 96 or the Pillman signing months earlier. The Bret announcement was a shoot supposedly but the Pillman signing came off as legit. ESPN wont notice the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Injuries killed his push in NXT but he can still go. Interesting to see what his plans will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, DreamBroken said: Can you blame KENTA? It will be interesting to see what he chooses to do. If Ambrose leaving is legit, which I think it is and KENTA, those would he huge scores if AEW can sign them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: That was the moment Sterling James Keenan should have gotten a kick to the fucking balls. Ouch; I've never seen that video. Poor Michael Cole being stuck between them (how often is it you get to say that? I know he probably gets beat on for a living behind the scenes but you don't get too many opportunities to feel bad about it). As far as KENTA goes, I don't blame him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Not surprised Itami asked for his release. I was a big fan of his back in the day. I wasn't high on Marufuji, but together they had some great matches during their GHC Jr. tag title run. I thought he was at least going to get the CW title at the Rumble, but that didn't happen. I don't think he signs with AEW though. I actually think he ends up returning to Japan and working for Noah and winning the GHC heavyweight title this time around. It would be cool if he signed with New Japan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The idea that injuries alone did Itami in is silly. He's had many chances to get over and never really did at any level. Best for everyone involved to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Can you blame KENTA? It will be interesting to see what he chooses to do. If Ambrose leaving is legit, which I think it is and KENTA, those would he huge scores if AEW can sign them. I don't think KENTA would be that big a score for AEW. If the "KENTA seems loyal enough to NOAH I would even be shocked if NJPW gets him" thing isn't there- the fact that...well, AEW can get actual top Japanese names to show up for them, especially with trying to work with NJPW. That killed KENTA as much as the injuries- once Nakamura signed with WWE, suddenly "he's your favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler! See, he doesn't just do Punk and Bryan's moves- Punk and Bryan stole them from him!" wasn't that cool*. *-I reserve the right to have my mind changed when WWE signs David Starr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I wish Itami won the cruiser title last year, him vs Strong was my favorite ever 205 match. Thought he looked good at the Rumble but I guess they were never going to do anything more with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil4126 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Itami should have been so much bigger then he was, but injury after injury deep sixed that poor bastard. While he looked good at the rumble, if there was ever a textbook example of a guy on auto pilot, it would be him. Hopefully he can regain some traction in Japan because the guy still can go. Best of luck to him. And speaking of autopilot, Dean Ambrose. Who the hell can blame this man for being mentally checked out and just done? Anything and everything after the initial heel turn has been DEATH. I don't know if anyone could have made that work. On top of the grueling schedule he was on before nearly dying, I'm sure he's done with all this. He strikes me as a guy who loves the performing aspect of wrestling, the interviews, the matches, but not the extra stuff that comes with it. I personally would love to see him in AEW but I can see him just making indy appearances as he sees fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, DreamBroken said: I wish Itami won the cruiser title last year, him vs Strong was my favorite ever 205 match. Thought he looked good at the Rumble but I guess they were never going to do anything more with him. God that match was so fucking good. Strong had an insane run of great matches the first few months of last year, and that was probably the best of them. I really liked the Itami/Ohno match as well. If more money is about to flow through NOAH, this is real good timing for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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