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On 4/24/2025 at 10:34 AM, Curt McGirt said:

An all time great frontman. Saw a Rocket From the Tombs show where he sat in a chair the whole show and he still came across as menacing.

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That's really awful, she was still touring pretty much constantly and wrote a musical a couple of years back.

She had a show scheduled tonight in Denver that will now be an impromptu memorial.

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REALLY surprised he made it into his early 80s. This is a guy who lived in a mansion on a hill like Howard Hughes in a high-rise hotel, having cocaine delivered to him so he didn't have to leave, for years. 

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(Never in human history has someone looked as 90's and Canadian as Steven Page does in this video.)

 

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We are rapidly losing the BC/AD type musicians.  Modern music doesn't exist in its current form without the two of them.  Pretty much everything you listen to, no matter the genre, has either some of Sly Stone and Brian Wilson's musical DNA in it.  Sly Stone is the bridge between James Brown and George Clinton, but was also really influential to the 60s San Francisco music scene.  Bob Marley's first American performance was as the opening act for Sly and the Family Stone.  There are not 10 more important American musicians than Sly Stone.  Brian Wilson influence is harder to pin down, but I think his influence has as much to do with how we feel about music as much as it's about the music itself.  Brian Wilson was the quintessential pop act, who literally drove himself crazy trying to elevate the art.  He wanted to make the type of music that everyone loved, but more than that he wanted everyone to want more from the art.  It was a revolutionary idea for someone who was at the top of the success ladder to reach down and try to elevate the art from the top.  His music was less successful commercially, but almost every pop artist who was a serious musician followed his lead.  Everyone from The Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Prince, Michael Jackson, etc.  made pop music that pushed artistic boundaries that may not have been explored without Wilson blazing the trail.  Rest in Peace to them both.

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I'm thankful for living so close to Bonnaroo, since I got to see Brian play with the Beach Boys back in 2012. Not something I'd seek out to see play by themselves, but in a festival setting that works out perfectly. Seeing them on a Sunday afternoon just felt right, for some reason. Stayed in my spot, and got a good place for Bon Iver right after them. I miss when Bonnaroo was good... I always wondered how he felt about the Dewey Cox movie making light of his drug problems, I hope he took it all in stride. This is all so weird, since I just watched the Manson documentary movie and they went into the Beach Boys stuff a little bit.

Anyway, RIP to a certified legend.

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1 hour ago, supremebve said:

We are rapidly losing the BC/AD type musicians.  Modern music doesn't exist in its current form without the two of them.  Pretty much everything you listen to, no matter the genre, has either some of Sly Stone and Brian Wilson's musical DNA in it.  Sly Stone is the bridge between James Brown and George Clinton, but was also really influential to the 60s San Francisco music scene.  Bob Marley's first American performance was as the opening act for Sly and the Family Stone.  There are not 10 more important American musicians than Sly Stone.  Brian Wilson influence is harder to pin down, but I think his influence has as much to do with how we feel about music as much as it's about the music itself.  Brian Wilson was the quintessential pop act, who literally drove himself crazy trying to elevate the art.  He wanted to make the type of music that everyone loved, but more than that he wanted everyone to want more from the art.  It was a revolutionary idea for someone who was at the top of the success ladder to reach down and try to elevate the art from the top.  His music was less successful commercially, but almost every pop artist who was a serious musician followed his lead.  Everyone from The Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Prince, Michael Jackson, etc.  made pop music that pushed artistic boundaries that may not have been explored without Wilson blazing the trail.  Rest in Peace to them both.

The thing with Brian Wilson/The Beach Boys is you can tell an act that's influenced by them and what they sound like owing a debt to Brian Wilson. Animal Collective and The High Llamas for example sound like something Brian Wilson/The Beach Boys would do. 

I got to see The Beach Boys as a little kid in concert, but never the shows with Brian Wilson. I always felt like he made it okay to be a little weird and he's probably the perfect example of someone with autism that lead a productive life (or at least he had similar traits to someone with autism). 

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29 minutes ago, Andrew POE! said:

I got to see The Beach Boys as a little kid in concert, but never the shows with Brian Wilson. I always felt like he made it okay to be a little weird and he's probably the perfect example of someone with autism that lead a productive life (or at least he had similar traits to someone with autism). 

I can see him being autistic, but I can also see him being someone who was extremely successful doing the popular thing, but wanted to do the great thing.  A lot of his issues seemed to stem from him wanting to remain the popular thing while doing the great thing, but being great wasn't nearly as popular.  I don't have a lot of hip-hop conversations with people, because I've found that there are people who care about hip-hop as an artform and there are people who when they listen to music they listen to rap music.  The former is a much smaller group than the latter.  I don't really spend a lot of time worrying about the opinions of the latter, because not only are they in it for different reasons than I am, they tend to be far less invested in why they like what they like than I am.  Brian Wilson seemed to want to have conversations with people interested in the art and people who just turn on the radio and like what is playing.  The people who cared about the are were with him, but he couldn't seem to get over the fact that the average pop music fan didn't care.  You can never please everybody, no matter what you do.  He was 100% invested in his art, but couldn't get over the fact that not everyone was as invested as he was.  

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20 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

If you want to underline how important Brian was a little more, take in mind that he was as influential on Joey Ramone as he was Paul McCartney. 

Sly is also pretty instrumental in the beginnings of Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead.  Sly in the early 60s intentionally decided to integrate everything he did between races and gender.  We lost two guys who affected every single musician  who came after them within days of each other.  

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I can't post YouTube links but I've been listening to Right Where I Belong and the No Pier Pressure album for the past day. Admittedly the Beach Boys stuff doesn't do a whole lot for me (I was very, very high at Bonnaroo, so...) but his later stuff with artists more in my wheelhouse, like Jim James, She & Him, Kacey Musgraves, etc. is peak.

Obviously (and oddly enough?) Smile is way up there, too.

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That might be my least favorite Melvins song. And I'll even include their pure noise tracks in that. 

On a more positive note, for the real sickos, I present something high school Razor would have killed for so he didn't have to download sketchy zip files on megaupload and rapidshare. The complete Unsurpassed Masters series. Outtakes, backing tracks, all kinds of stuff. Stolen from the Capitol vaults and bootlegged.  

 

https://archive.org/details/the-beach-boys-unsurpassed-masters

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