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Nobody has said the correct thing about what would happen.  If the God Emperor did show up, it would be the highest rated RAW of all time, have the largest live attendance of the building it runs in, and would also be the shortest RAW of all time because a riot that would make prime Tijuana Lucha shows look like a Church Picnic would break out shutting the whole thing down.  Because the crowd in that situation couldn't be controlled and half would show up because he rarely ever shows up in a situation where he hasn't bought the whole crowd one way or the other, and the other half would be people he bought off one way or the other, and everyone would tune in to see the chaos.

 

That's also if said riot doesn't start before the show airs and kills it all dead.

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7 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:

Yes. Yes it would.

Political discourse is so divided in the United States right now that if someone declares their political affiliation in any way, shape, or form, half the country will immediately rally behind them as a modern-day hero, and the other half of the country will instantly hate them forever. 

If Trump showed up on Raw, every fan who considers themselves left-wing will instantly change the channel and never come back, but every right-wing fan would say WWE is the greatest show of all time and every real American would watch this.

The same would happen if Bernie Sanders showed up on Raw, except the right-wingers would change the channel and the left-wingers would rally behind WWE.

I disagree, I genuinely think more people would tune in to hatewatch Raw in that instance, no differently to people watching Game of Thrones hoping that Joffrey gets his.

Outside the wrestling bubble, there would be a certain schadenfreude about Trump lowering himself to appearing on a wrestling show to distract from the other stuff going on that you just couldn't look away from.

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3 minutes ago, Raziel said:

Nobody has said the correct thing about what would happen.  If the God Emperor did show up, it would be the highest rated RAW of all time, have the largest live attendance of the building it runs in, and would also be the shortest RAW of all time because a riot that would make prime Tijuana Lucha shows look like a Church Picnic would break out shutting the whole thing down.  Because the crowd in that situation couldn't be controlled and half would show up because he rarely ever shows up in a situation where he hasn't bought the whole crowd one way or the other, and the other half would be people he bought off one way or the other, and everyone would tune in to see the chaos.

 

That's also if said riot doesn't start before the show airs and kills it all dead.

"Does the Garden even hold that many?"

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Leaving aside the nonsense of half of Raw's audience vanishing and literally no one else tuning in for a promoted appearance by the President, (or the idea that the split is 50/50 and not X-left/X-right/Y where Y=people who DGAF) I don't actually see how a Trump appearance helps the WWE outside of popping a single rating, which doesn't really benefit them any in the long run cuz no advertiser's gonna assume that's a real number as far as ratings for WWE go.

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23 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:

WWE were going to go to a new model of: "We will give people the option of free admission to WWE shows in certain sections that will make television, and/or free merchandise at the merch stand. In exchange for this, however, the second an audience member agrees to take compensation, whether in merch or in free admission, they will be legally considered an extra on the show, and as such WWE will have the right to tell that person how to cheer or boo in the matches", that seems like it would make a lot of sense.

That would lose money too. What happens when fans boo anyway? Are they going to stop a live show? 

It would be easier to just make some effort to please your paying customers. Think of it. People pay to watch your show. Then they like your show so much, they buy merchandise. 

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4 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said:

I disagree, I genuinely think more people would tune in to hatewatch Raw in that instance, no differently to people watching Game of Thrones hoping that Joffrey gets his.

Joffrey is a fictional character, and Jack Gleeson holds no political power in the real world in any way, shape, or form. That's the whole difference.

If you're hatewatching Raw because you hope something bad happens to Trump, that goes FAR BEYOND just hatewatching a show for hating a character. Compared to the most recent unpleasant few weeks, people may hate Baron Corbin as GM, but no one actively hoped something bad would happen to Thomas Pestock outside the ring.

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7 minutes ago, Cristobal said:

Leaving aside the nonsense of half of Raw's audience vanishing and literally no one else tuning in for a promoted appearance by the President, (or the idea that the split is 50/50 and not X-left/X-right/Y where Y=people who DGAF) I don't actually see how a Trump appearance helps the WWE outside of popping a single rating, which doesn't really benefit them any in the long run cuz no advertiser's gonna assume that's a real number as far as ratings for WWE go.

It's a fair point, but it's also a criticism of every single other ratings popper that they have up their sleeve. No different to say, The Rock, coming out, cutting a promo, hitting an elbow on a midcard guy, leaving and that's it. For all their obsession with the ESPN play of the day type legitimacy, it'd be nothing compared to it being replayed on every morning show thereafter. 

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EDIT for @Victator ''s response: The obvious thing would be simple. If an extra disrupts the tapings by doing something wrong, they'd be taken out of the shot and not used. Same token- if the person tries to boo after taking compensation, WWE would be right to claim "Okay, you're kicked out of the show and you don't get the option to take compensation again"- and if they try to disrupt the show more, "You're banned from coming to WWE TV tapings or PPVs" would be on the board as well. 

Pleasing your fans would work, except the problem is that it's very rare that the audience rises one person up to a point where you can say "okay. The crowd chose this person. Let's run with them." Like for instance right now, it's clear the audience chose Becky Lynch, so now WWE has said "Okay, we'll run with it. Becky it is." If that doesn't happen, then the audience is so divided that it becomes a Hydra of "for every one fan you please by pushing any person on the roster, two other fans are going to whine that you chose them and not THIS person, and when you push that person, two more fans will whine you chose them and not THIS person, and so on until you go back to start with the original person.". 

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2 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said:

It's a fair point, but it's also a criticism of every single other ratings popper that they have up their sleeve. No different to say, The Rock, coming out, cutting a promo, hitting an elbow on a midcard guy, leaving and that's it. For all their obsession with the ESPN play of the day type legitimacy, it'd be nothing compared to it being replayed on every morning show thereafter. 

I mean Rock at least has a built-in wrestling-friendly fanbase (i.e. Attitude-era watchers who fell off) that could conceivably be convinced to come back to today's product, (not with the current shit-factory that is Monday Night Raw but that'd be the idea anyway).

Rando Trump-fans? Nah.

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If they do a few trades then this is what I would do 

Becky Lynch swap with Bayley.

Becky goes over to Raw, she wants Ronda but Alexa Bliss says she has to win the Rumble, she wins the Rumble or they do a thing where Becky and Nia eliminate each other at the same time, they have a match at Elimination Chamber with the winner facing Rousey at Mania.

Bayley gets a fresh start on Smackdown, she has barely had a feud with Charlotte, Asaka etc, would be good for her career.

Next trade will be AJ Styles swapping with Seth Rollins

Each guy needs fresh opponents, would give them a fresh start, both should turn heel really as they are a bit stale as babyfaces.

Tag team trade, I would trade The Usos for The Revival to give some newish tag matches for both divisions

I would also swap Baron Corbin for The Miz or maybe Kevin Owens for The Miz.

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6 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:

EDIT for @Victator ''s response: The obvious thing would be simple. If an extra disrupts the tapings by doing something wrong, they'd be taken out of the shot and not used. Same token- if the person tries to boo after taking compensation, WWE would be right to claim "Okay, you're kicked out of the show and you don't get the option to take compensation again"- and if they try to disrupt the show more, "You're banned from coming to WWE TV tapings or PPVs" would be on the board as well. 

What if they do it in mass?

 

 

7 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:

Pleasing your fans would work, except the problem is that it's very rare that the audience rises one person up to a point where you can say "okay. The crowd chose this person. Let's run with them." Like for instance right now, it's clear the audience chose Becky Lynch, so now WWE has said "Okay, we'll run with it. Becky it is." If that doesn't happen, then the audience is so divided that it becomes a Hydra of "for every one fan you please by pushing any person on the roster, two other fans are going to whine that you chose them and not THIS person, and when you push that person, two more fans will whine you chose them and not THIS person, and so on until you go back to start with the original person.". 

We know that WWE are not trying their best. They have had a lot of over acts since 2015 they have ignored. Don't act like finding what people want is so mysterious. 

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