John from Cincinnati Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, CastleVania Rey said: Wow. Everything on the card was good to great. Not a single bad match from pre-show start to main show end. PPV of the year. One of the best WWE PPVs of the decade I think. The decade? Do I just not understand wrestling anymore? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hopefully they keep Rollins and Ambrose apart for a good long while. It worked before because Dean is an incredibly effective babyface and Seth comes off as genuinely unlikeable. Trying to play them both opposite type is horrifyingly tone deaf. I think Reigns’ illness has effected Ambrose in some way mentally. He has not looked focused at all since. The best thing might be to have Renee play some part in this. This shit is DOA at this point, why not use her to try and salvage it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: That said, the roster is so talented right now.. they really have to try very hard to have a shitty PPV. For the most part you are putting two guys or two teams or a few women out there who are great.. so unless the layout is just completely absurd you are going to get pretty good matches. Often, great matches. Obviously this does nothing for the lead up to said matches. I agree the talent is immense right now, however, I think the issue I'm having (and possibly others are) is that (especially on Raw) the matchups are getting super, super predictable and stale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 So let's say somehow before Mania, both Charlotte and Becky end up on RAW and the WM match is them vs Rousey. Who does SDL get in return and what would be the title match for Asuka at Mania? Naomi? Nia? Alexa? A called up from NXT Io? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, MonteCarl said: So let's say somehow before Mania, both Charlotte and Becky end up on RAW and the WM match is them vs Rousey. Who does SDL get in return and what would be the title match for Asuka at Mania? Naomi? Nia? Alexa? A called up from NXT Io? In this scenario, I would say they push Sasha over to Smackdown because we have already seen there chemistry is high level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, El Dragon said: In this scenario, I would say they push Sasha over to Smackdown because we have already seen there chemistry is high level. Yeah, but you gotta keep the horsewomen on the same show for now. In case you wanna do some hijinx with the eight horsewomen. Is that enough to pull a stagecoach? Wait, what were we talking about? if Alexa isn’t the new RAW GM, I could see her getting traded to smackdown. Maybe take Mickie and a couple others with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Flair/Rousey Nia/Becky Asuka/Naomi Brock/Rollins Braun/Drew Miz/Shane .... Bayley/Sasha vs........dunno, the Bellas? Shirai/Kairi? No idea where you go with AJ and Bryan - does Cena come back and challenge Bryan, or do you go with Rey? Another shot at Taker/Cena? Can they convince Shawn to do the AJ match? No-one else really matters at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleVania Rey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: The decade? Do I just not understand wrestling anymore? In that wrestling fans have a potentially wide variety of opinions? My comment is based on my opinion that every match on the show was good. Even Rollins/Ambrose (which was the most poorly produced match in context). That's pretty hard to do for a main roster WWE PPV. And note that I wrote "one of". Let's not go crazy here. What do you think is "one of" the best WWE PPVs of the past decade? Not being rhetorical. Just actually curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Seth Vs Dean should had been a hate filled brawl. Sometimes the match producers screw it up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila The Hut Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Liked the main event, but hats probably due to the fact Asuka won. I’m thinking we’re getting a Rousey-Flair-Lynch three way at WrestleMania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said: Flair/Rousey Nia/Becky Asuka/Naomi Brock/Rollins Braun/Drew Miz/Shane .... Bayley/Sasha vs........dunno, the Bellas? Shirai/Kairi? No idea where you go with AJ and Bryan - does Cena come back and challenge Bryan, or do you go with Rey? Another shot at Taker/Cena? Can they convince Shawn to do the AJ match? No-one else really matters at this point God I hope they have the sense to keep Rollins far away from anything meaningful. Unless Drew/Braun is the title match. Then I’m ok with Rollins getting punted into the sun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I’d make it a triple threat for Mania. Keep Charlotte close so Becky stans have another reason to be paranoid. Keep that heat hot. Yes! Reminds me that I love the cycle where Charlotte puts on incredible performances, fans kinda acknowledge that she's really good for a couple of days, then they magically forget about it to return to 'But she's not Becky!', 'But she's a Flair!', 'Vince likes her!", 'overpushed!' and all the other cliches. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think a lot would depend on how far/if at all, Roman comes back. I think all conquering Drew being taken down by the returning Roman would be ideal. I'd be OK with Rollins pulling out a fluke win over Lesnar, getting destroyed after, and then being forced to defend against Drew the night after and getting beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said: I think a lot would depend on how far/if at all, Roman comes back. I think all conquering Drew being taken down by the returning Roman would be ideal. All conquering Drew? Did you even watch the show? He lost to mid-carder Finn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 What a friend Liv Morgan is, sacrificing herself like that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, sydneybrown said: All conquering Drew? Did you even watch the show? He lost to mid-carder Finn. Yeah, it's weird he's dropping falls to Dolph and Finn, but they seem keen to protect him at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooker Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: The decade? Do I just not understand wrestling anymore? If you don't know that wrestling fans are basically dogs that go to the extremes of OMG BEST EVER or BARK GROWL HATE THIS on everything, then yes, you don't understand wrestling any more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, just drew said: God I hope they have the sense to keep Rollins far away from anything meaningful. Unless Drew/Braun is the title match. Then I’m ok with Rollins getting punted into the sun. Rollins wins the Royal Rumble and beats Brock at WM. Just a hunch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Rollins wins the Royal Rumble and beats Brock at WM. Just a hunch. I don’t understand why they think that’s a good idea. But you’re probably not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleVania Rey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Rollins wins the Royal Rumble and beats Brock at WM. Just a hunch. I actually said this very thing earlier to my father. Though it's hard to imagine Brock losing to anyone (besides Reigns), let alone Rollins, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 mins of Brock vs Seth. Brock wins. Charlotte vs Becky below it, non title match but a gimmick match maybe. Main is some old guys vs some old guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, just drew said: I don’t understand why they think that’s a good idea. But you’re probably not wrong. I don't think it's the worst idea they could come up with. This Rollins/Ambrose feud has been awful for everybody. I saw two guys half-heartedly in what was supposed to be a hate filled battle involving the constant bringing up of their friend who had to step away because of leukemia. The announcing has been absolutely terrible. There was no need to bring up Dean and Renee's marriage. It sounds like Renee is rather uncomfortable having it brought up on the air. I blame Vince 100% for this abortion of an angle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, just drew said: I don’t understand why they think that’s a good idea. But you’re probably not wrong. Because McIntyre is a heel, and Strowman is injured (and doesn't have the backing from the right people supposedly, which is the important part). Rollins is a face, has the right supporters and is also pretty damn over with the live crowds. McIntyre is still new to the main roster, this time around anyway. Give it a little time. He'll be in the mix by Summer 2019, if not immediately following WrestleMania. Strowman has had so many chances, in kayfabe, against Lesnar (just like Reigns) and couldn't get the job done. I mean, Reigns eventually did, but it took like, what, 3 years or something? Rollins has had three matches against Lesnar, that I could find - one was a triple threat with Lesnar & Cena, the other was the WrestleMania MITB cash-in, and then a DQ loss to Lesnar. I'm pretty sure all of those happened within the same year, too. Rollins/Lesnar is a fresh match-up. Strowman/Lesnar isn't. McIntyre/Lesnar would be, but it's not the time for it yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, D.Z said: Seth Vs Dean should had been a hate filled brawl. Sometimes the match producers screw it up. FUCK YOU DEAN. FUCK YOU SETH...*does chain wrestling* I mean it was a good match. But you know, they should have been beating each other senseless. Especially with all those weapons just laying there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Ambrose vs Rollins should have been the Chairs match, not Orton/Mysterio. Or, really, Lashley/Elias didn't need to be a ladder match. And wasn't that on the pre-show? That's a complete waste of a gimmick match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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