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12 minutes ago, mattdangerously said:

Mike Jackson just started shopping where I work. I wonder how many times he has to come in before it's appropriate for me to ask him how it felt to kick CM Punk's ass?

I can't be the only one who thought you were talking about the Alabama Jr. Heavyweight champion at first, right?

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7 hours ago, MORELOCK said:

Punk was an all-time great at cutting promos and was absolutely a pioneer for the indy guys in WWE - that said, his ring work has never been as good as it has been made out to be. Overrated is definitely the word for it.

This guy? Overrated?

 

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22 minutes ago, mattdangerously said:

Mike Jackson just started shopping where I work. I wonder how many times he has to come in before it's appropriate for me to ask him how it felt to kick CM Punk's ass?

Ask him how it felt to know he could have kicked CM Punk's ass, if he only could have been bothered to exchange or actually make an effort. Ask him what it's like to have Dana White describe you as a fucking idiot, and fire you.

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24 minutes ago, AxB said:

Ask him how it felt to know he could have kicked CM Punk's ass, if he only could have been bothered to exchange or actually make an effort. Ask him what it's like to have Dana White describe you as a fucking idiot, and fire you.

That would be a really stupid thing to ask someone who beats people up professionally. 

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1 hour ago, mattdangerously said:

That would be a really stupid thing to ask someone who beats people up professionally. 

It would be really stupid for someone who beats people up professionally to beat up a fan for asking him a question, admittedly a question that is baiting him.

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1 hour ago, mattdangerously said:

That would be a really stupid thing to ask someone who beats people up professionally. 

He doesn't do it professionally any more. He got fired.

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I've been looking for the video of CM Punk being an unathletic dork in the Liger workouts from his Shoot. It amused me greatly. The morons commenting on how he's "working" being shitty at it amuse me. "He was the head trainer at the ROH school!" Yes, and they were all horrible and fell out of the business.

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There was a WWE tryout in Germany recently. Apparently they had a match between Axel Dieter Jr. and Fabian Aichner.

Ilja Dragunov, Jurn Simmons and Emil Sitoci from wXw were participated.

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16 hours ago, sydneybrown said:

I can't be the only one who thought you were talking about the Alabama Jr. Heavyweight champion at first, right?

HA! My first thought was "Ask him if he still has the belt!" Then the Punk stuff registered. 

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16 hours ago, Ryan said:

I've been looking for the video of CM Punk being an unathletic dork in the Liger workouts from his Shoot. It amused me greatly. The morons commenting on how he's "working" being shitty at it amuse me. "He was the head trainer at the ROH school!" Yes, and they were all horrible and fell out of the business.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Punk didn't nearly have the amount of training any NJPW dojo Student had at that time. That being said, early 2000 Indy-darlings were mostly shite regarding their level of training, both athletically and ring-psychologically. 

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Pick an indy-darling. Fat as fuck Chris Hero was an amazing athlete and so was Bryan Danielson as were many others. Super Dragon before his knees got all fucked up. Samoa Joe was a very good athlete too. Colt Cabana was quite athletic too.

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11 minutes ago, ReiseReise said:

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Punk didn't nearly have the amount of training any NJPW dojo Student had at that time. That being said, early 2000 Indy-darlings were mostly shite regarding their level of training, both athletically and ring-psychologically. 

Well, anyone who came up in a Japanese Dojo has to have great fundamentals because until you have them down, you aren't allowed to do anything else. Whereas at some point American trainers went from that system (if you listen to Flair or Steamboat describing their training in the AWA school, it sounds pretty similar to the Japanese style... hell, even Jericho & Storm's Hart Brothers training, although that sounds a lot shorter and easier) to a real basic, like here's how to bump, here's how to flip bump, here's how to run the ropes, here's how to Moonsault, here's how to Canadian Destroyer, congratulations, you're trained! Only took a fortnight*!

* Two weeks. Apparently Americans don't know that.

2 minutes ago, Ryan said:

Pick an indy-darling. Fat as fuck Chris Hero was an amazing athlete and so was Bryan Danielson as were many others. Super Dragon before his knees got all fucked up. Samoa Joe was a very good athlete too. Colt Cabana was quite athletic too.

There are Ace Steel interviews where he talked about training Cabana and Punk. He'd show them something, Punk would take three hours and countless fails to learn it, Cabana would try it once and hit it perfectly. But Colt was an athlete, he played American Football in College. Whereas Punk was banned from High School football for having a mohawk (he claims. Possibly he washed out for being lanky and uncoordinated and the hair was his excuse).

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