John from Cincinnati Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On the topic of potentially out of touch rich folks, would someone already being a millionaire be disqualifying if you had a vote at the final tribal council on Survivor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 @Oyaji @Nice Guy Eddie @PetrolCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I love how Mac and Dennis are both Jerry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: On the topic of potentially out of touch rich folks, would someone already being a millionaire be disqualifying if you had a vote at the final tribal council on Survivor? This is a really interesting question. I've never watched Survivor, but I'd probably vote for whomever needed the money the most. To be honest, I'd lobby for every contestant to get at least half that for all the stuff they have to go through while CBS makes millions off their suffering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Edwin said: @Oyaji @Nice Guy Eddie @PetrolCB Speaking of shows better than Seinfeld and Curb combined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: On the topic of potentially out of touch rich folks, would someone already being a millionaire be disqualifying if you had a vote at the final tribal council on Survivor? I haven't watched Survivor in years but I can sort of remember some old Jimmy Carter looking guy from one of the first few seasons getting bounced towards the end because he was wealthy. Also, didn't former NFL backup QB Gary Hogeboom act like he was some poor farmer because he thought he'd get voted out early if everyone on the island knew who he was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brocklock Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Dee's Elaine is getting slept on. She nailed the JLD mannerisms. That whole segment was great. I hope they filmed more and release it or something. As for the sitcom debate, I have to go with Curb overall with Seinfeld and Always Sunny right behind it. I was rewatching the entire series recently and aside from feeling a little stale in Season 5, it's been borderline perfect for me. Even after the staleness in 5, they added Leon in season 6 which gave the show a whole new energy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Regarding jokes and sitcoms and sensitivity, I HIGHLY suggest listen to the Armchair Expert podcast that had Michael Schur on as the guest. This was during the "Good Place" week. Anyway, he talked about his philosophy when it comes to joke writing and it was very thoughtful. There's a reason why damn near everything he touches is gold. Anyway, it ties in nicely to what was being discussed on the last page and it's a great examination of what comedy is now, at least on TV, in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 5:33 PM, supremebve said: Dude, are you Michael Scott? Michael Scott is funny because he doesn't understand why it's not OK to be Michael Scott. The reason that it works is because the entire rest of the cast acknowledges that nothing he is doing is OK. The only reason any of his shit is funny is because he has no idea that what he is doing isn't funny, but everyone else is hyper-aware that it's not funny. That is the joke that his entire character is based on. If the rest of the office was laughing with him the show wouldn't work, the reason it works is because everyone else on the show recognizes how offensive his behavior his. The only reason it is funny is that we all recognize that it's not funny. If the show asked us to laugh with Michael Scott, and not at Michael Scott, the show wouldn't work. It is why the dinner party episode is so brilliant. We spent the entire run of the show laughing at this dude, and then we see a glimpse into his home life. We see that he treats people the way people treat him. He see that he actually doesn't know any better. This is the same with Larry David's character on Curb, so it's funny that @Edwin mentioned this show specifically as an example of comedians being allowed to not be "PC." He's not some hero; everything is does is wrong and awkward and he IS the joke. We're meant to laugh at him, not with him. The one time his behavior is perceived by other characters as a positive to be used to their advantage ("The Social Assassin"), it backfires. People who think Larry is some hero and his boorish behavior is "comedians being allowed to be comedians" are the same type of simple minded viewers who didn't understand that we were supposed to stop rooting for Walter White somewhere along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Technico Support said: This is the same with Larry David's character on Curb, so it's funny that @Edwin mentioned this show specifically as an example of comedians being allowed to not be "PC." He's not some hero; everything is does is wrong and awkward and he IS the joke. We're meant to laugh at him, not with him. The one time his behavior is perceived by other characters as a positive to be used to their advantage ("The Social Assassin"), it backfires. People who think Larry is some hero and his boorish behavior is "comedians being allowed to be comedians" are the same type of simple minded viewers who didn't understand that we were supposed to stop rooting for Walter White somewhere along the line. We still going on about this? My point was previously clarified, but it apparently went over you head and yeah, simple minded viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Technico Support said: This is the same with Larry David's character on Curb, so it's funny that @Edwin mentioned this show specifically as an example of comedians being allowed to not be "PC." He's not some hero; everything is does is wrong and awkward and he IS the joke. We're meant to laugh at him, not with him. The one time his behavior is perceived by other characters as a positive to be used to their advantage ("The Social Assassin"), it backfires. People who think Larry is some hero and his boorish behavior is "comedians being allowed to be comedians" are the same type of simple minded viewers who didn't understand that we were supposed to stop rooting for Walter White somewhere along the line. I have so many questions about anyone who roots for Walter White and/or Stringer Bell. I love both shows, but those two characters are as reprehensible as human beings get. I can't think of a single redeeming quality either of them have by the end. They are pretty much what happens when a person puts their own selfish interests before everything else in life in a way that does irreparable harm to everyone around them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, supremebve said: I have so many questions about anyone who roots for Walter White and/or Stringer Bell. I love both shows, but those two characters are as reprehensible as human beings get. I can't think of a single redeeming quality either of them have by the end. They are pretty much what happens when a person puts their own selfish interests before everything else in life in a way that does irreparable harm to everyone around them. I never watched The Wire but in Breaking Bad's case, I chalk it up to people who watch a show and immediately think "main character = protagonist, who I am supposed to root for and identify with, always!" They just didn't get it. So, for example, instead of seeing "I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS" as the pathetic cry of a man desperately trying to act like he's in control when he's obviously not, they saw White as this absolute badass and Skylar as a horrible harpy out to ruin his fun. It's amazing. Christ, dudes. It wasn't even Walter who "knocked." He wasn't "THE DANGER." Jesse killed Gale. The show went out of its way to underline Walter's bullshit and contrast what he said with reality, but some people still didn't get it. You're supposed to see right through his bluster and it's crazy how many people didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Technico Support said: I never watched The Wire but in Breaking Bad's case, I chalk it up to people who watch a show and immediately think "main character = protagonist, who I am supposed to root for and identify with, always!" They just didn't get it. So, for example, instead of seeing "I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS" as the pathetic cry of a man desperately trying to act like he's in control when he's obviously not, they saw White as this absolute badass and Skylar as a horrible harpy out to ruin his fun. It's amazing. Christ, dudes. It wasn't even Walter who "knocked." He wasn't "THE DANGER." Jesse killed Gale. The show went out of its way to underline Walter's bullshit and contrast what he said with reality, but some people still didn't get it. Stringer is pretty much the same thing, except he took a couple community college classes and decided he was going to go "legit," but his idea of going legit was to sell out everyone around him and violate every principle that got him in the position to go legit in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 It's pretty much Tony Soprano syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 This is TV related I guess NBC has fired Megyn Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIPPA said: This is TV related I guess NBC has fired Megyn Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Congratulations to Ms Kelly on her Lifetime Racism Achievement Award. Also depending on who you believe she either was dropped by or fired her agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The blurb I saw late last night was that CAA dropped her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I've seen it reported both ways but haven't seen an official statement from either party so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 She hasn't technically been fired yet. Probably because NBC is still on the hook for $69m in her contract and they might be trying to negotiate a way to get out of paying some of that before anything is officially announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tabe said: She hasn't technically been fired yet. Probably because NBC is still on the hook for $69m in her contract and they might be trying to negotiate a way to get out of paying some of that before anything is officially announced. I honestly don't understand how being a public racist doesn't let you off the hook when you fire someone. Did she negotiate a " you know I'm going to be a racist on television" clause in her contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, supremebve said: I honestly don't understand how being a public racist doesn't let you off the hook when you fire someone. Did she negotiate a " you know I'm going to be a racist on television" clause in her contract? Some variation of "you know I'm going to say controversial stuff, so you have to pay me no matter what" clause, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Maybe moral turpitude clauses need to explicitly say "dont be racist, homophobic,..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 NBC paid both Billy Bush and Matt Lauer full freight after they got fired for being shitheads and abusers respectively so I'm thinking their legal department might not be the cream of the crop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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