BurningBeard Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Gorman said: I think Braden Walker also shares that distinction. Great, now I've got to post this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 El Hijo del Santo is close He only lost one match in the WWF - it was a tag match that turned out to be his last match since he refused to lose his mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Jeff Hardy let his contract expire when he was the hottest babyface in the country in WWE and next showed up in TNA. Of course, like the day after he left WWE was when he got arrested in the drug bust so ymmv on what his eventual plan was. Obviously his life was spiraling out of control but he did walk coming off a pretty big main event run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just when you thought you've seen one of the dumbest things WWE could ever do, you're reminded that they asked Santito to lose his mask. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Why the hell would they expect a luchador, almost certainly on a pay by apperance basis to agree to lose his mask? Did WWE actually have plans for El Hijo del Santo if he lost the mask? I can only imagine those plans included losing a LHW title match to Taka before doing nothing else in WWF's piss poor excuse for a LHW division at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The WWE have a long standing belief that everything the WWE has ever done is better and more important than everything everyone else has ever done. And when that belief is proven false, it doesn't count because the WWE owns everyone else's history too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Craig H said: I thought that was the case. He also looks way better with the shaved head. He looks like a bootleg Randy Orton, which, sadly, is an improvement over generic indy flippy guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Who's the narrator for that Walker DVD set? L. Ron Hubbard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 7 hours ago, cwoy2j said: I don't know if I'd count Angle. IIRC, Vince wanted him to go to rehab as a condition of him staying and Kurt wasn't ready to admit he had a problem so he went to TNA. I don't know if I'd call that him willingly choosing TNA over WWE. Maybe choosing TNA over rehab and taking time off so that he didn't seriously hurt himself in the ring is more accurate. I think the rehab stuff is mostly revisionist history. The concern for his well-being mostly came from the fans. WWE was quick to release him and wash their hands of the situation, unlike with Bryan where they basically forced him to take a couple years off. I think the bigger thing at the time was Angle wanted a lighter schedule and Vince said no. 6 hours ago, AxB said: Who is the worst wrestler to have a 'great wrestler' gimmick? JBL? Eh, JBL called himself a wrestling god, but that was tongue and cheek. He was always portrayed as a dirty brawler. The answer is probably some generic indy try-hard that never made it big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 What was that Canadian guys name, which was the "next" guy after Dynamite and Benoit? He was decent but that's putting yourself in some lofty company. Oh, Max Boyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Just when you thought you've seen one of the dumbest things WWE could ever do, you're reminded that they asked Santito to lose his mask. They understand very little outside of their own style and social media metrics, so this is no surprise. 3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Why the hell would they expect a luchador, almost certainly on a pay by apperance basis to agree to lose his mask? Did WWE actually have plans for El Hijo del Santo if he lost the mask? I can only imagine those plans included losing a LHW title match to Taka before doing nothing else in WWF's piss poor excuse for a LHW division at the time. As compared to 205 Live now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 EDIT: This is in reply to Go2Sleep's post. Don't talk about Teddy Hart that way! In terms of guys who had a choice between WWE and TNA, does Matt Hardy count? He was a free agent for a good while before going to TNA for his world title run and the eventual Broken angle. And he didn't want to do the WWE schedule at that time (for good reason, look what it did to him). When Umaga first showed up doing a barefoot savage gimmick, this board's reaction was to say Samoa Joe was right to join TNA because that would have been his WWE gimmick. Also, it's tongue in cheek, not and. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I want to say Brent Albright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, odessasteps said: What was that Canadian guys name, which was the "next" guy after Dynamite and Benoit? He was decent but that's putting yourself in some lofty company. I want to say Brent Albright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 We should be surprised they didn't keep Rey unmasked from WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, AxB said: In terms of guys who had a choice between WWE and TNA, does Matt Hardy count? He was a free agent for a good while before going to TNA for his world title run and the eventual Broken angle. And he didn't want to do the WWE schedule at that time (for good reason, look what it did to him). I don't know if Matt Hardy's a good example of that one: After TNA fell back to earth, Matt was effectively blackballed from WWE for how far he sank, made it to TNA for a short term, somehow had sank so low EVEN TNA thought he had gone too far and got rid of him- went to ROH, basically settled down, got back to TNA, got the World Title run/Broken angle, and then finally got brought back to WWE. The only time you can say Matt Hardy could punch his own ticket and decide was in 2005 after the love triangle problem- and even there, depending on your side of the story either Matt Hardy was called back during the 90 day no-compete by WWE after agreeing to terms with TNA, or left TNA at the altar to go back to WWE. Either way, he's not a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, AxB said: When Umaga first showed up doing a barefoot savage gimmick, this board's reaction was to say Samoa Joe was right to join TNA because that would have been his WWE gimmick. Did WWE have interest in Joe in 2005? I don't remember, but long term it was probably good he didn't show up until the NXT glory days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Joe was supposed to be Umaga, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaeBlazer Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 What are the best examples of excellent match structures let down by mediocre to bad performances from the wrestlers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The first Sabu vs Cactus Jack match in ECW was hurt by the fact that Cactus wanted to tell a story, but the fans wanted to see uncontrolled mayhem. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, L_W_P said: I want to say Brent Albright. Brent Albright's not Canadian. He's from Oklahoma. Edited October 18, 2018 by Nice Guy Eddie I see you came up with who it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, evilwaldo said: They understand very little outside of their own style and social media metrics, so this is no surprise. As compared to 205 Live now? 205 Live isn't perfect, but it's hell of a lot better than the LHW division and the initial WWE CW division in 2002. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Betsy Zeidler said: Joe was supposed to be Umaga, yeah Wasn't this confirmed to be bs long ago? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: We should be surprised they didn't keep Rey unmasked from WCW. Very true but thankfully if not for his mask sales we’d have seen it possibly multiple times maybe even broken Rey Mysterio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Go2Sleep said: Did WWE have interest in Joe in 2005? I don't remember, but long term it was probably good he didn't show up until the NXT glory days. The rumor I remember going around in late 2004-early 2005 was Mick Foley being sent to ROH to try to get either Punk or Joe to sign with WWE. It was for the better that Joe didn't go earlier. For one, he most likely would have been repackaged. He probably ends up as a monster of the month, gets fed to Cena, then ends up back down amongst the rest of the pack. For all of WWE's terrible booking, Joe has been booked strong, even in defeat. If I were running things, I would have had Joe win the belt from AJ, and the next feud being between Joe/Bryan/AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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