OSJ Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 22 hours ago, joseph2112 said: Or you could go the other way and it's the very first match someone ever saw, they enjoyed it, so it was a "good match". Which means it was, to them. Which makes them right. And I'll second someone above in saying that criticizing someone who compliments you is very, very strange behavior. Austin Aries is that belligerent little fuck you knew in high school who twenty years later is still bitter that he was too small for the football team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, OSJ said: Good call! Hogan/Mutoh and Hogan/Hansen in Japan were pretty sweet as well. I've long defended Hogan as someone who could, (when he felt like it) work a hell of a good match. The NA audiences wanted the hulk-up, big boot and leg drop so that's what they got. The Japanese fans wouldn't have stood for such nonsense, so they got a good match. Agree 100%. It baffled me when Meltzer said he was a terrible wrestler that one time he was trying to have a conversation with Ole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MonteCarl Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: My favorite year ever in wrestling. I've read that Lorne Michaels always says that people think the best SNL cast is whichever one was on while they were in high school, and I think the same might be true for wrestling and childhood. I mean, sure, I've seen plenty of incredible things in wrestling in the 21 years since, but there still isn't anything quite like seeimg everything you listed for the first time I started watching wrestling in the peak of the Rock N Wrestling era in the mid-80s. I was in my late teens/early 20s during the '96 Bret return/rise of the Attitude Era. I still consider Bret's return at Survivor Series '96 through the crowing of Steve Austin at WM 14 my favorite time in wrestling. I've always been a WWF guy, but even WCW during that same time frame was amazing TV with the debut of Nitro and rise of the nWo. Great stuff all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: My favorite year ever in wrestling. I've read that Lorne Michaels always says that people think the best SNL cast is whichever one was on while they were in high school, and I think the same might be true for wrestling and childhood. I mean, sure, I've seen plenty of incredible things in wrestling in the 21 years since, but there still isn't anything quite like seeimg everything you listed for the first time I started watching wrestling in the peak of the Rock N Wrestling era in the mid-80s. I was in my late teens/early 20s during the '96 Bret return/rise of the Attitude Era. I still consider Bret's return at Survivor Series '96 through the crowing of Steve Austin at WM 14 my favorite time in wrestling. I've always been a WWF guy, but even WCW during that same time frame was amazing TV with the debut of Nitro and rise of the nWo. Great stuff all around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Moose Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) The Library of Congress will be live-streaming John Cena reading from his new children's book, which sounds like The Little Monster Truck That Could. Friday at 10:30 EST via the LOC's Facebook Edited October 9, 2018 by Iron Moose fixing the URL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Of course that's happening. I'd be more surprised if it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Iron Moose said: The Library of Congress will be live-streaming John Cena reading from his new children's book, which sounds like The Little Monster Truck That Could. Friday at 10:30 EST via the LOC's Facebook I wonder if Cena has a voice for the truck like his hamper voice. Maybe he figured the only way Nikki would understand the two hamper concept was using an Adam Sandler-like voice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Man I wish we got a run of Hogan/Abdullah in the WWF. So many opportunities for when too. I mean fuck Zeus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The other guy on the FMW podcast that's not BAHU said he heard Onita mention he was invited to be a guest for this past WrestleMania. Onita gonna Onita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Edwin said: The other guy on the FMW podcast that's not BAHU said he heard Onita mention he was invited to be a guest for this past WrestleMania. Onita gonna Onita. God bless that crazy bastard. Let's face it, a Wrestlemania with Onita and Mr. Pogo in the main event would have been the best thing ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 hours ago, MonteCarl said: I started watching wrestling in the peak of the Rock N Wrestling era in the mid-80s. I was in my late teens/early 20s during the '96 Bret return/rise of the Attitude Era. I still consider Bret's return at Survivor Series '96 through the crowing of Steve Austin at WM 14 my favorite time in wrestling. I've always been a WWF guy, but even WCW during that same time frame was amazing TV with the debut of Nitro and rise of the nWo. Great stuff all around. Oh without a doubt was Bret's return @ SS96 through the Montreal Screwjob the best year WWF ever had creatively. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 hours ago, OSJ said: Good call! Hogan/Mutoh and Hogan/Hansen in Japan were pretty sweet as well. I've long defended Hogan as someone who could, (when he felt like it) work a hell of a good match. The NA audiences wanted the hulk-up, big boot and leg drop so that's what they got. The Japanese fans wouldn't have stood for such nonsense, so they got a good match. It's totally a case of Hogan being smart enough to play to the market. Hogan in Japan is better than Flair in Japan. It's clear as day that Flair only knew how to work one way. Hogan could go, and he could work a csptivating match when the audience called for it. I just would have loved to seen a Hogan vs Jumbo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, Wyld Samurai said: It's totally a case of Hogan being smart enough to play to the market. Hogan in Japan is better than Flair in Japan. It's clear as day that Flair only knew how to work one way. Hogan could go, and he could work a csptivating match when the audience called for it. I just would have loved to seen a Hogan vs Jumbo. Arguably the greatest wrestler of our lifetime against a smart worker who could almost keep up with him? Yes, take all my money right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The entire Hogan catalog sort of diminishes the Hogan in-ring thing, but I think he was quite good in his early WWF/white trunk wearing phase. Those house show matches are particularly good, hate filled brawls IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 9 hours ago, OSJ said: Good call! Hogan/Mutoh and Hogan/Hansen in Japan were pretty sweet as well. I've long defended Hogan as someone who could, (when he felt like it) work a hell of a good match. The NA audiences wanted the hulk-up, big boot and leg drop so that's what they got. The Japanese fans wouldn't have stood for such nonsense, so they got a good match. Who does he think he is, Shinsuke Nakamura? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hogan didn't really get totally bogged down in his strict formula until a year or more into his first WWF reign. After that, actual good matches were rare, but he could bust it out whenever he felt it was necessary well into the 90's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 My favorite match might Vince vs Hogan at Mania 19. It had one hell of a backstory and build (Hulkamania, Vince and Hogan changing the game in the 80's, Hogan testifying against Vince, nWo, WCW almost beating Vince, Hogan at the forefront of that), tons of fucking blood, a ladder, Pipering showing up out of nowhere. What is there not to like about that match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The formula is less the fact that Hogan wasn't good and more: Hulk Hogan was a natural born entertainer who knew enough to give the people what they wanted. It's not Hogan's fault that for most of his prime, the people were just happy to be in the same room as Hulk Hogan...and even in the Kidman feud or his 2002 run in WWE, Hogan was able to pull out a little bit more to try and work the modern style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Also, definite co-sign on November 96-November 97 being my favorite stretch in wrestling history. It probably is a lot of the "I was 15" thing, but I think history kinda bears it out, at least to some degree. WCW was firing on all cylinders and the nWo hadn't really gotten stale yet, WWF was behind but absolutely on fire with some of the hottest crowds ever. 98 did more business, but the things that ended the era were already showing up that year. But 97 was just fucking awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I don't know if I buy into the idea that your favorite era of wrestling is whenever you were a teenager, because if that was the case then I'd love 2005/2006 (although the SNL part holds up!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Yea I gotta agree my favorite period of wrestling was 85 thru 87. So I was a pre teen. When I became a teen I mostly stopped watching wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I was a teen during Austin's ascension and the Attitude era, but my favourite year for wrestling remains 1992. That's childhood nostalgia somewhat, but looking back I do think it was the best year for matches and star power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'm another on the SS96-SS97 being the best year in WWF history train. I was 15 at the time, and we didn't have sky, so a friend of mine used to tape Raw and Nitro for me every week and bring it in to school for me. I remember rushing home from school on those days to watch wrestling. I'm a huge Bret fan, so the Hart Foundation was like manna from heaven for me, but I was super into Nitro too. I especially remember staying up way past my bedtime to watch Canadian Stampede and marking the fuck out when the Foundation won, trying not to wake my mum up. Nothing in wrestling could ever replace those memories. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Web Conn said: My favorite match might Vince vs Hogan at Mania 19. It had one hell of a backstory and build (Hulkamania, Vince and Hogan changing the game in the 80's, Hogan testifying against Vince, nWo, WCW almost beating Vince, Hogan at the forefront of that), tons of fucking blood, a ladder, Pipering showing up out of nowhere. What is there not to like about that match. Aigh, you're right it's the perfect pro-wrestling storyline too. Never to be repeated. Fuck Hogan hitting an enzuigiri and axe bomber on Muta (*****), I'd much rather he had a test of strength with Mr McMahon and then kill him off with three leg drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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