John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: So, she's esentially Steve Austin. Not until she starts showering herself in heavy Irish ale. #SettleDownHollywoodBadBoynetico 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Not until she starts showering herself in heavy Irish ale. #SettleDownHollywoodBadBoynetico So, she's not officially a face until we see Guinness and Jameson baths, got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Are you implying the person who disguised herself, hid in the crowd, and took a cheap shot at a rival who'd just wrestled a grueling competitive match is a face? I enjoy Becky's work and if people want to cheer her then more power to them. But those aren't the actions of a hero. There's nothing righteous or justified about her violent attacks. It's been petty and jealous from the word go. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yeah but Charlotte had a beating coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: Yeah but Charlotte had a beating coming. Because she's successful and capable of getting it done in the ring? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Because she's successful and capable of getting it done in the ring? Because she was handed what Becky earned and then used a heel finish to steal Becky's title. Boo the woo 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Charlotte defeating the champ entitled her to a title opportunity. Same as Becky. If Becky had earned anything more than that, she'd be the champ right now. But she ain't. Charlotte has no obligation to step aside when a professional opportunity presents itself and I don't begrudge her for taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Becky had to go on a multi week winning streak just to get the book title match Charlotte was handed. Becky earned it. Charlotte was gifted it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Becky had to go on a mutli-week win streak to climb the ranks. Charlotte had already earned a higher rank than Becky, thus she had less mountain to climb. Becky wallowing in mediocrity and camping out at the base of the mountain for the past couple years doesn't impress me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Charlotte earned a higher rank by losing twice to Carmela and then being out hurt? Balderdash! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Losing to the champ generally isn't enough to send someone to the back of the line, especially a perennial contender with a proven track record. And returning to defeat Carmella only further solidified her spot at the top. Anyway, if you'd like to use her cosmetic work to penalize her professionally, that's your business. But Paige runs a far more progressive ship than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Rick said: The cream always rises to the top. Joe is proof of that. To me, the language barrier is a major disconnect in how Vince perceives the foreign contingent that are brought up. Almas is fortunate that he has Zelina to drive the act and Nakamura is fortunate that he's bizarre and cartoonish enough to get a push, and his English is quite good. If I hadn't been exposed to Asuka prior to her being called up, I'd have trouble to decipher what the big deal was either. But y'know, as a promoter you should be doing your due diligence. But Vince is Vince. The same dude who prematurely split one of the best acts in NXT in American Alpha and gave the weaker member a mega push on his biggest show. Nakamura's english is very good but because of his accent I'll bet Vince can't understand a word he says. In fact I imagine Vince's interactions with foreign talent being much like the scene in Rush Hour when Chris Tucker first meets Jackie Chan. "DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE GOD DAMN WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH PAL?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 What gets lost is Paige goofed. Becky goes through all the hoops Paige set for her and earns her shot. Charlotte got a shot because Carmella has a fresh mouth and Paige used Charlotte to get revenge. Little Miss GM didn't look at the ramifications before setting this mess in motion. Of course, Paige can't get eat a punch right now. But they could include her in the story as realizing her mistake and trying to appeal to Becky's decency. It would provide some balance to Becky's actions. Her handling of the situation is wrong, but her feelings are justified. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I agree that Paige could be doing more to address the feelings of her performers. It's unfortunate that Dr Shelby has such a tight schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: What gets lost is Paige goofed. Becky goes through all the hoops Paige set for her and earns her shot. Charlotte got a shot because Carmella has a fresh mouth and Paige used Charlotte to get revenge. Little Miss GM didn't look at the ramifications before setting this mess in motion. Of course, Paige can't get eat a punch right now. But they could include her in the story as realizing her mistake and trying to appeal to Becky's decency. It would provide some balance to Becky's actions. Her handling of the situation is wrong, but her feelings are justified. Is it wrong that if Page ever returns to the ring I want it to be revealed that she purposely did this to split the two apart because she was jealous of their success while she was injured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 For such a goof, Paige needs to be placed in the Disarm-her ON TOP OF A TABLE. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Victator said: The whole thing makes NXT look like shit. Along with the Ascension being jobbers. Skill or whatever aside, if you allow someone to hold your title/titles for a year and dominate your division, you should always protect them to a degree. It has to be Vince who hates Asuka. Charlotte beat her by submission while being poisoned by a ruptured implant. They could have ran the same exact angle with Asuka as champion and Carmella cashing in after the JOB Squad ambushes Asuka. But you can't make WWE have any sort of narrative sense. Its a cliche on forums, but the company is controlled by an elderly brain damaged man with dementia. I don't think Stephanie is much better. Been saying this for at least a year with respect to NXT and the main roster. You can be a star in NXT but come up and become a JTTS on the main roster. Look at everyone who has been called up. In NXT, you are told to get over. In the WWE, you cannot get over unless told to get over. Two completely different worlds. Bayley is by far the biggest example of this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I've said before but I absolutely believe things would've been better for Asuka if the streak was ended by a cheap Mella cash in versus tapping out clean of all things to Charlotte. Very good match aside, the worst part of it to me was having submission specialist Asuka tap clean in a match where it wasn't like leg work was the focus or built to, in fact Charlotte was selling while putting the hold on. Most everything that followed could've stayed the same but all would've worked better and made more sense in regards to Asuka's booking. Asuka wins the title from Charlotte at WM. IIconics debut and beat down Asuka, Carmella cashes in. Charlotte comes after her rematch clause against Carmella at Backlash as she did while Asuka takes care of the IIconics, then go back to Asuka/Carmella as they did but now there's heat and a reason behind it. The previously unbeaten Asuka's one loss was on a cheap cash in coming after a 2 on 1 beatdown. Could even do some of the same Ellsworth stuff but if they ultimately had Asuka win the title back from Carmella, even if just for a month or less, then keep things going as did but make SummerSlam a 4 way where Charlotte can even win the title back without having Asuka pinned. So many simple ways that Asuka could have been protected in defeat vs how it was done. Instead she was inconsistently even on TV after WM until the Carmella feud, missed SummerSlam entirely, and now has not wrestled on TV since July 24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Rick said: Yeah I get why Jordan was chosen, he ticks all the boxes for what Vince has a history of gravitating to. Owens also spoke about being glued to the gorilla position during every show. He's been a sponge since day one. He has a open line with Vince and was given a long term contract for his commitment. As does Ambrose. Shit I've heard stories of Vince and Ambrose spit balling ideas back and forth into the early hours. It really is no surprise to me Sasha and co aren't being used in prominent positions because they're too frightened to knock Vince's door down and rather take pot shots on social media. As long as the outdated political system of Vince's regime is still in place, that's how things will operate. Be political or wait your turn. Isn’t this sort of every job? Having a good rapport with the top person in your company/division/etc. goes a very long way. It’was doubly true if you are in a creative industry. What is wrong with pitching the boss ideas? Or learning how TV production works (when you essentially work on a TV show)? That isn’t unfair politics or the like. That’s called being a good employee. The boss might not always like your ideas. But if you ask good questions and continue to develop ideas to pitch, you’ll catch a break at some point. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: So, she's esentially Steve Austin. He got over pretty well as a face. I’m so glad Twitter and such wasn’t around for Austin’s rise. The arguments about whether he was a heel or face were tedious enough as it was. 5 hours ago, The Natural said: This is Rusev's best shot and even then I don't think it will happen at HIAC 2018. I feel like I’m among the more pro-WWE people here, but I’ve pretty much stopped expecting them to strike while the iron is hot with anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Asuka was brought in to lose her streak eventually, to get another woman over carreer wise. Vince probably thinks Asuka's never losing streak was dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, D.Z said: Asuka was brought in to lose her streak eventually, to get another woman over carreer wise. Vince probably thinks Asuka's never losing streak was dumb. and it should have been Becky Lynch after Asuka beat Charlotte at WM Who cares what Vince thinks is dumb? He's a 70 year old man amused by dick and fart jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 As long as Vince is in charge..he thinks that people that think differently from him are in the wrong. And nearly everything he does is perfection in his view and the fans of today just can't understand it. Vince is just "dammit it's my way always". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, DreamBroken said: I've said before but I absolutely believe things would've been better for Asuka if the streak was ended by a cheap Mella cash in versus tapping out clean of all things to Charlotte. Very good match aside, the worst part of it to me was having submission specialist Asuka tap clean in a match where it wasn't like leg work was the focus or built to, in fact Charlotte was selling while putting the hold on. Most everything that followed could've stayed the same but all would've worked better and made more sense in regards to Asuka's booking. Asuka wins the title from Charlotte at WM. IIconics debut and beat down Asuka, Carmella cashes in. Charlotte comes after her rematch clause against Carmella at Backlash as she did while Asuka takes care of the IIconics, then go back to Asuka/Carmella as they did but now there's heat and a reason behind it. The previously unbeaten Asuka's one loss was on a cheap cash in coming after a 2 on 1 beatdown. Could even do some of the same Ellsworth stuff but if they ultimately had Asuka win the title back from Carmella, even if just for a month or less, then keep things going as did but make SummerSlam a 4 way where Charlotte can even win the title back without having Asuka pinned. So many simple ways that Asuka could have been protected in defeat vs how it was done. Instead she was inconsistently even on TV after WM until the Carmella feud, missed SummerSlam entirely, and now has not wrestled on TV since July 24. You can't keep ignoring the reality that Asuka wouldn't have gotten the belt back from Carmella. We have already seen how Charlotte failed to do so w/o IIconics interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Eivion said: You can't keep ignoring the reality that Asuka wouldn't have gotten the belt back from Carmella. We have already seen how Charlotte failed to do so w/o IIconics interference. I guess I just hate that there was absolutely nothing gained from Charlotte ending Asuka's streak, it was pointless and forgotten within a matter of weeks. At least Carmella doing it in theory adds more heat/puts her over more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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