Elsalvajeloco Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Canelo vs. Golovkin II September 15, 2018 Las Vegas, NV (T-Mobile Arena) WBA Super/WBC/Ring Magazine Middleweight Championship: Gennady Golovkin © (159.6) vs. Saúl Álvarez (159.4) - Álvarez, DEC (majority)- WBA Super (eighth defense) - WBC (fourth defense) - The Ring Magazine (vacant) WBO Super Welterweight Championship: Jaime Munguia (154) vs. Brandon Cook (153.2) (second defense) - Munguia, TKO (referee stoppage), R3 (1:03) David Lemieux (160) vs. Gary O'Sullivan (159.2) - Lemieux, KO (left hook), R1 (2:44) Román González (114.8) vs. Moisés Fuentes (116) - González, KO (right hook), R5 (1:44) Free Preview Preliminary Card: Vergil Ortiz Jr. (139.6) vs. Roberto Ortiz (139.8) - Ortiz Jr., TKO (referee stoppage), R2 (1:03) Alexis Rocha (148.4) vs. Carlos Ortiz Cervantes (148) - Rocha, DEC (unanimous) Jaba Khositashvili (166.6) vs. Lawrence King (168.4) - Khositashvili, DEC (unanimous) Brian Ceballo (146.6) vs. David Thomas (146) - Ceballo, TKO (referee stoppage), R2 (0:34) Attendance: 18,183Gate: $23.4 millionBuyrate: 1.1 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Repost from the Random Boxing thread with a update: Triple G vs. Canelo Alvarez II this weekend. I much prefer MMA to boxing but I'll sometimes watch the big fights in the mood strikes. Three thoughts. The fight shouldn't be happening as Canelo pissed hot twice. The "punishment" was bullshit. Thank you to @Oyaji for posting what Dave Meltzer had to say about the failed tests. I will read that when this goes through. The fight is happening so hopefully Triple G picks up the win he deserved last time out against Alvarez. Fuck Adelaide Bird for that God awful scorecard she gave, 10-2 to Alvarez. Triple G now has a draw when it should be a perfect record. I'm wanting Alvarez to get KTFO. Goes without saying I don't want him badly hurt as fighting is dangerous with people dying/life changing injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Hopefully we can get some judges for this fight that are not on the Golden Boy payroll.... Just kidding. The first fight was a close and contested slugfest. GGG would be wise to do his best not to leave the decision in the hands of the judges. He also needs to establish his jab early to dissuade Canelo from counterpunching him into oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 GGG is going to knock Canelo the fuck out, counterpunching be damned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, OSJ said: GGG is going to knock Canelo the fuck out, counterpunching be damned. You'll hear my cheers ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 There has rarely been a fight where I so badly want one guy to win/lose. I just want to see GGG destroy Alvarez. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 It's interesting that a lot of fighters and trainers are picking Canelo based on them seeing Golovkin as long in the tooth, but Canelo has been boxing six months longer than Golovkin as a pro. Are people forgetting that when Morales and Barrera looked old, they were like 28 or 29 because they had been pro boxers for 13 or 14 years at that point? It's not a long amateur career, but it's still not natural. People are worried about Golovkin looking over the hill, but how long do people believe Canelo is going to be at this level already approaching 30? I say 2-3 years tops which is probably about the same time I would give Golovkin. The Vanes fight still proved he can cave your face in if he wants. I don't see that dissipating quick enough where he would be losing to random middleweights he would normally beat. Jacobs is a really good fighter and Canelo is good also. He pretty much destroyed everyone else and the division still pretty thin save for Saunders, Canelo, Jermall Charlo, and Jacobs. We'll see if Demetrius Andrade can shake his career being snakebit. Other than that...Ryota Murata? Dude is already old. Jury is still out on Derevyanchenko. Munguia's peak, assuming he does eventually move to 160, will probably be when GGG is out of the picture anyway. Out of those four that are good, Charlo is the only big puncher. Saunders and Andrade are going to try to outbox you. The rest of the middleweight division is hot garbage and the only prospect that people care about is still at junior middleweight. So even if he isn't good as he was , which I don't see much evidence of as much as he didn't need to be this mythical destroyer to beat past opponents, he can still run through mandatories and the non Haymon/Showtime fighters. If he beats Canelo here, is the reaction going to be Canelo wasn't that good or Golovkin is back? Because both arguments are pretty flawed and faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elsalvajeloco Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Apparently, this fight is BOTH Canelo and Golovkin's last fight on their HBO deals. So I guess this is essentially a loser leaves town fight. HBO already backed out of the Kovalev business by basically passing on the Eleider Alvarez rematch. After Superfly 3 tanked both attendance wise and ratings wise (Garcia vs. Porter on Showtime beat them by 200k viewers which is unheard of), they can't afford to lose Kovalev, Canelo, AND Golovkin after losing Crawford, Lomachenko, Klitschko (who got good ratings when he did appear on HBO), Ward, and Cotto. I don't know how they would bounce back from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BurningBeard Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Tough call this. Canelo has A LOT to prove, GGG might be just past his peak if the talking heads are to be believed, but either way I hope the fight obliterates the sour taste the last fight and lead up to this left in our mouth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elsalvajeloco Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 This is interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Triple G in six. Just want Golovkin to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, The Natural said: Triple G in six. Sounds about right, mate! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OSJ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Classic robbery is more like it, GGG's won that fight by any criteria that you care to apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 Poor Spike O'Sullivan did all that talking and got left hooked into another decade in one round. Loudmouth Irish fighters aren't faring so well this past month. I don't expect Brandon Cook to be in there long with Munguia so it's going to be a lot of filler on this PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Everyone knows it's we soft-spoken Irish that you have to watch out for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Go GGG if you go to the Judges again they will probably fuck you again unless you knock him down several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 So Munguia got Cook out of there early as expected. Now, there will be about 75 to 80 minutes until the main event starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Suddenly reminded of why I hate watching big boxing events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Craig H said: Suddenly reminded of why I hate watching big boxing events. What, you don't enjoy an hour and a half of talking heads yammering nonsensically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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