Graham Crackers Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 As requested, here's a thread for errors on the DVDs so that way we can keep Chris in the loop.here are the only ones I've spotted so far: Hijo del Santo, Ringo Mendoza y Chamaco Valaguez vs. Jerry Estrada, Fuerza Guerrera y Talisman (3/9/84) I'm pretty sure Ringo Mendoza isn't in this match and that's actually his brother Cachorro Mendoza. I just wanted to give everybody a heads up about the order of matches on the third disc. This is the order they are appearing in on my disc: Satanico vs. Shiro Koshinaka (Hair vs. Hair) (7/30/84) El Satanico y Espectro Jr. v. El Faraón y La Fiera (8/12/84) Gran Cochise vs. Satanico (9/14/84) Sangre Chicana vs. MS-1 (Hair vs. Hair) (9/21/84) Villano III vs. Perro Aguayo (10/7/84) Satanico vs. Super Astro (10/26/84) Javier Cruz, Impacto y Solar II vs. El Dandy, Franco Colombo y Panico (10/84) Perro Aguayo vs. Sangre Chicana vs. El Faraón vs. Villano III (Elimination Match) (10/84) Atlantis, Ringo Mendoza y Tony Salazar vs. El Satanico, MS-1 y Espectro Jr. (9/28/84) The menus however are still labeled as if the matches are in chronological order so if you click on Atlantis, Ringo Mendoza y Tony Salazar vs. El Satanico, MS-1 y Espectro Jr. (9/28/84) then Villano III vs. Perro Aguayo (10/7/84) will play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Thanks for the info Graham!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 There are some spelling errors in the match lists too. The Brazos often get called del oro for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 From Alfredo Taped 3/2/84 Arena Mexico: 1. El Satanico/MS-1/Espectro Jr. vs. Lizmark/Atlantis/Mascara Ano 2000 – Villano III & Los Infernales argue before the match, El Satanico pre-match interview, Post-match interviews & challenges between Lizmark & El Satanico2. Ultraman vs. Jerry “El Puma” Estrada – Mexican National Middleweight Title3. Tony Salazar vs. HerodesTaped 3/9/84 Arena Mexico:4. Shiro Koshinaka appears to do an interview warning Lizmark that he’s coming for him.5. Ringo Mendoza/Hijo del Santo/Javier “Chamaco” Valaguez vs. Talisman/Fuerza Guerrera/Jerry “El Puma” Estrada6. Herodes/El Supremo/MS-1 vs. Villano III/Mascara Ano 2000/Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (match cuts off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 From Alfredo Taped 3/2/84 Arena Mexico: 1. El Satanico/MS-1/Espectro Jr. vs. Lizmark/Atlantis/Mascara Ano 2000 – Villano III & Los Infernales argue before the match, El Satanico pre-match interview, Post-match interviews & challenges between Lizmark & El Satanico2. Ultraman vs. Jerry “El Puma” Estrada – Mexican National Middleweight Title3. Tony Salazar vs. HerodesTaped 3/9/84 Arena Mexico:4. Shiro Koshinaka appears to do an interview warning Lizmark that he’s coming for him.5. Ringo Mendoza/Hijo del Santo/Javier “Chamaco” Valaguez vs. Talisman/Fuerza Guerrera/Jerry “El Puma” Estrada6. Herodes/El Supremo/MS-1 vs. Villano III/Mascara Ano 2000/Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (match cuts off) I watched the first few minutes of the match again and the announcers are clearly saying Ringo. I'm not sure what had me so confused. Maybe they were just talking about Cachorro later in the match. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Graham is right. Looks like Alfredo's match list is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookieghana Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I will put together a spreadsheet for Lucha voting when I get back from my Disney vacation (next week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Graham is right. Looks like Alfredo's match list is wrong. Were they saying Ringo at the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't know about that but it's definitely his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I am tempted to call this thread "Alfredo, get your shit together!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 I feel like a pest but I'm really curious about the possible dates of these matches. I also marked part of this in spoilers to avoid spoiling the finish of the Babyface vs Fiera hair vs hair match. Ringo Mendoza, Atlantis y Ultraman vs. Satanico, Masakre y MS-1, (September 1986) Pirata Morgan, BabyFace y Cien Caras vs. La Fiera, Lizmark y Rayo De Jalisco Jr. (September 1986) These are obviously the same show but I don't think that show actually happened in September 1986. Masakre is wearing his mask in the first match but according to luchawiki Masakre lost his mask to Kiss 8/29/1986. It is possible that luchawiki is wrong because I don't really know what the source of that claim would be. Anyway, if it isn't September 1986 then I could see this happening before the La Fiera vs Babyface match from 8/15/86 because Babyface's hair looks very similar to how it looked before that match. EDIT: I think we can also speculate about the real date of Babyface, Cien Caras y Mascara Ano 2000 vs. Lizmark, Rayo De Jalisco y La Fiera (September 1986) for similar reasons. La Fiera has his shoulder taped up the same way it is in their hair vs hair match and at one moment during the post match stuff Babyface gestures towards Fiera and then to his hair as if to challenge him for a hair vs hair match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Gran Cochise, Villano III y Rayo De Jalisco Jr. vs. Fishman, Mocho Cota y Tony Bennetto (11/30/84) was another match where I was seriously questioning the date as both the Cota/Cochise hair matches are listed as being from '83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim. Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Tony Salazar, Mogur y Alfonso Dantes vs. Hombre Bala, Talisman y Tony Bennetto vs. Satanico, MS-1 y Masakre (4/10/87) The team of Ringo Mendoza, Atlantis and Javier Llanes is also in the mix here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Some corrections with dates: Cien Caras vs. Siglo XX (4/10/87) is 12/4/87 Blue Panther/Sergio El Hermoso v. Super Astro/Solar (10/17/87) is 8/22/87 Jerry Estrada, Pirata Morgan y Hombre Bala vs. Atlantis, Alfonso Dantes y Rayo De Jalisco Jr. (Feb 1987) is likely 2/13/87 Satanico vs. Super Astro (10/84) is 10/14/84 Perro Aguayo vs. Sangre Chicana vs. El Faraon vs. Villano III (Elimination Match) (10/84) is 10/14/84 Sangre Chicana vs. Villano III (12/7/84) wasn't in December. I believe it happened in Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Satanico vs. Super Astro being chased by the Elimination Match is a hell of a night in Arena Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I dunno if I understood you correctly, but the elimination match was the main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 This is obviously and quite painfully (for me) wrong -- El Dandy, Magico y Super Astro vs. Gran Cochise, Javier Cruz y Javier Rocca (11/11/87) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Blame Zellner!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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