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2 minutes ago, Ryan said:

Corporate directives to talent wouldn't be that surprising.

How likely is it this is a corporate directive to pile on Meltzer?

Considering that Peyton Royce was the first one to go after Lio Rush for his idiotic Tweet before the rest of the roster tried to set him straight (and when it happened, it was said the IIconics were two of the leaders in the women's locker room), and considering how when they got the callup, a lot of the roster was celebrating that it happened- this seems like the most likely aspect would be "Peyton is very popular in the locker room and most of these wrestlers are trying to defend their friend" instead of "Vince McBoogeyman is telling the poor WWE wrestlers to gang up on innocent old Dave Meltzer because they hate fans."

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11 minutes ago, SorceressKnight said:

How likely is it this is a corporate directive to pile on Meltzer?

Considering that Peyton Royce was the first one to go after Lio Rush for his idiotic Tweet before the rest of the roster tried to set him straight (and when it happened, it was said the IIconics were two of the leaders in the women's locker room), and considering how when they got the callup, a lot of the roster was celebrating that it happened- this seems like the most likely aspect would be "Peyton is very popular in the locker room and most of these wrestlers are trying to defend their friend" instead of "Vince McBoogeyman is telling the poor WWE wrestlers to gang up on innocent old Dave Meltzer because they hate fans."

I wouldn’t necessarily say that WWE told them to do it but I do think some people had agendas here. They already had a bone to pick with Dave and this was their chance to pounce. This is coming from that who doesn’t even like Dave very much and one of my favorite wrestlers (Rollins) went after him but I really think this is the case.

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3 hours ago, Ryan said:

*scrolls through tons of things*
My strongest most uninformed take: "I find people I am attracted to to be attractive!" I also like fluffy bunnies and puppies and kittens. Come at me! *shrug*

You're welcome to be attracted to whomever you want. I'm not sure who's arguing against that. 

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1 hour ago, FlaeBlazer said:

I wouldn’t necessarily say that WWE told them to do it but I do think some people had agendas here. They already had a bone to pick with Dave and this was their chance to pounce. This is coming from that who doesn’t even like Dave very much and one of my favorite wrestlers (Rollins) went after him but I really think this is the case.

What bone did they already have to pick exactly?

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4 minutes ago, Casey said:

Not THE bone, but I've read WWE seems to think Meltzer and his business had a hand in helping ROH/NJPW sell out MSG and they aren't too happy about it.

I dont know about the MSG one, but certainly they likely helped push the Chicago show. 

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3 hours ago, Ryan said:

I don't know why, but this image just feels RIGHT as a non-sequitur that's still topical at the moment.

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Look I'm not trying to body shame anyone here and I don't want to start an SJW pile on. I'm just saying that monitor is hella heavy-looking and thick in a not pleasing way and seeing it is making me depressed to think that was probably the monitor he was talking into for the Eyada show.

 

this weird thing is happening where a cultural shift is so rapid that a bunch of people, including myself, are suddenly dinosaurs and they aren't ready for it and they aren't old enough to be retired yet and they keep stumbling into tar pits. Maybe 1964-69 was the last time that happened. 

 But one of Dave's biggest problems here is that he has internalized the logic and voice of "the business" (or really at this point just "Vince") that he sometimes gives "opinions" that are actually just him going through the motions of reading Vince's mind.  I can fully believe that when he says the words "I don't like how she looks right now" what it actually means is "Vince probably doesn't like the way she looks right now" and even Dave doesn't know the difference anymore. The sad thing is that he has absorbed the thoughtless and lazy logic of "the business" and adopted it's bizarre ideas as simple facts. It makes him as predictable and clumsy as the industry he's supposed to be casting a critical eye on.

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The last three pages could form a strong basis for 'The Internet, a play.'

The first scene I wrote goes something like this:

"Say you're sorry! Come on, say it! Just fucking say it!"

"I'm sorry!"

"Yeah right! What a non apology!"

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36 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

Won't be enough for some people.

I mean if it's 36 minutes of "sorry everyone I actually would still fuck Peyton, happy to set the record straight" then why would it be enough, the issue is with the quality of his apology not how epic in length it is

if his first tweet had just been "sorry yeah I fucked up, I'll do better next time" it'd probably be done

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4 minutes ago, sevendaughters said:

Dave ballsed up and apologised, Vince sexually assaulted a woman at a tanning salon this year, woke WWE stans need to take looooong look in the mirror. 

wasn't the Vince tanning salon thing a story that resurfaced again from years ago? It's semantics, but I remember reading about that in the mid 2000s, like '06 or something?

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