FlaeBlazer Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The DQ finish of Styles/Joe basically confirms that Joe isn’t getting the belt. It reminds me of when they wanted a reason to extend the Styles/Nakamura feud but they didn’t want to give Nakamura the belt so they just kept doing fuck finishes. If Joe was ever going to win the belt, it would’ve been tonight. He could’ve taken advantage of AJ’s anger and stolen a win. But since they wanted to extended the feud without giving Joe the belt, they aren’t going to give it to him later. It looks like the Hell in a Cell rematch will be a clean win and triumph for AJ Styles who gets the happy ending with his family. Becky’s heel turn was an epic failure. The underdog who the fans always root for is supposed to be the bad guy. And the person who the fans resent for always winning and constantly being in the spotlight is the babyface. If the crowd is rooting for the heel to beat down the babyface, it’s a failure. You could argue that crowds will always pop for a heel turn but what happened after the heel turn can’t be twisted. Charlotte who’s supposed to be the babyface gets “YOU DESERVED IT!” chants after the beatdown. That means that the crowd wasn’t just happy to see Becky snap, they were happy to see Charlotte get her comeuppance which should be seen as a very undesirable reaction. Charlotte Flair is now a female Roman Reigns. Certain people are meant to be in certain roles. It’s like WWE sees it as a challenge to put people in roles that don’t fit them. Becky Lynch is a natural babyface. Charlotte Flair is a natural heel. But for some reason, they get off on booking surprise moments rather than logical stories. I really hope they go the anti-hero route with Becky rather than having her become a generic whiny coward heel like the rest of them. I’m not getting my hopes up though. By the way, Becky also isn’t getting the belt. Since Ronda/Charlotte is the endgame at Mania, they will keep Charlotte strong. Becky is basically gonna be the villain of the month that Charlotte puts down. Becky will lose to Charlotte a couple times before they move on. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Maybe Luke don't gotta be on PPV. He's doing pretty well without it. I thought he was married to Amber O'Neal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 They got divorced like, two years ago or something. Unverified obviously, but the rumor was that he cheated on her with Dana Brooke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 hours ago, The Natural said: 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Of course the Demon King kicked the Constable's ass. Frickin guy is a different shirt away from being RTC Bull Buchanan. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, FlaeBlazer said: The DQ finish of Styles/Joe basically confirms that Joe isn’t getting the belt. It reminds me of when they wanted a reason to extend the Styles/Nakamura feud but they didn’t want to give Nakamura the belt so they just kept doing fuck finishes. If Joe was ever going to win the belt, it would’ve been tonight. He could’ve taken advantage of AJ’s anger and stolen a win. But since they wanted to extended the feud without giving Joe the belt, they aren’t going to give it to him later. It looks like the Hell in a Cell rematch will be a clean win and triumph for AJ Styles who gets the happy ending with his family. Becky’s heel turn was an epic failure. The underdog who the fans always root for is supposed to be the bad guy. And the person who the fans resent for always winning and constantly being in the spotlight is the babyface. If the crowd is rooting for the heel to beat down the babyface, it’s a failure. You could argue that crowds will always pop for a heel turn but what happened after the heel turn can’t be twisted. Charlotte who’s supposed to be the babyface gets “YOU DESERVED IT!” chants after the beatdown. That means that the crowd wasn’t just happy to see Becky snap, they were happy to see Charlotte get her comeuppance which should be seen as a very undesirable reaction. Charlotte Flair is now a female Roman Reigns. Certain people are meant to be in certain roles. It’s like WWE sees it as a challenge to put people in roles that don’t fit them. Becky Lynch is a natural babyface. Charlotte Flair is a natural heel. But for some reason, they get off on booking surprise moments rather than logical stories. I really hope they go the anti-hero route with Becky rather than having her become a generic whiny coward heel like the rest of them. I’m not getting my hopes up though. By the way, Becky also isn’t getting the belt. Since Ronda/Charlotte is the endgame at Mania, they will keep Charlotte strong. Becky is basically gonna be the villain of the month that Charlotte puts down. Becky will lose to Charlotte a couple times before they move on. But the most logical way to build to Ronda/Charlotte is to have Charlotte win the Rumble and challenge for Ronda's Raw title. Unless they're planning to have Ronda win the Rumble, Charlotte will surely drop the belt in the next couple of months, most likely to Becky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 hours ago, The Natural said: I was pissed with Charlotte Flair winning, she's back as a women's champion, she's much better as a heel and it all came at the expense of Becky Lynch who is so likeable. Fuck that shit. 5 hours ago, The Natural said: Charlotte Flair has taken part in two of my least favourite match results this year: submitting Asuka at WrestleMania XXXIV ending Asuka's undefeated streak and this at SummerSlam. This won't change but I did legit chuckle at the crowd reaction to Becky's beatdown of Charlotte after the match. Biggest response on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I enjoy Charlotte but she was the last person I wanted as champion again. If they weren’t going to go with Becky, I would have preferred it stay on Carmella. And making Becky the heel is crazy as Charlotte plays that role far better than she plays face. They should have had her as the shady opportunist frenemy. Instead, we have the face getting her ass kicked to massive cheers and “you deserved it” chants. We’ll see how this develops but they have to be careful because Becky came off even more sympathetic than usual lol It was great seeing Nattie last night. That visual with her standing on the ramp, in her dad’s jacket, gave me the feels. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jamal said: I enjoy Charlotte but she was the last person I wanted as champion again. If they weren’t going to go with Becky, I would have preferred it stay on Carmella. And making Becky the heel is crazy as Charlotte plays that role far better than she plays face. They should have had her as the shady opportunist frenemy. Instead, we have the face getting her ass kicked to massive cheers and “you deserved it” chants. We’ll see how this develops but they have to be careful because Becky came off even more sympathetic than usual lol It was great seeing Nattie last night. That visual with her standing on the ramp, in her dad’s jacket, gave me the feels. Echo all this. Will repost the Natalya photo of her wearing her Dad's jacket: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Check this out: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RIShane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Natural said: Dolph Ziggler's dying words: I deserve this! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, L_W_P said: Why are we assuming this is a Becky heel turn? Why can’t her actions lead to a Charlotte turn? Charlotte can just as easily cut a promo on SDL about Becky being jealous of Charlotte’s family & intro into the biz. Poor little Becky had to scratch and claw in the bingo halls of Ireland while Flair was being groomed for greatness, Becky was always the 4th Horsewoman etc Becky then gets the huge win by making Charlotte tap in the main event of Evolution. This would be the smart way to play it. I mean Becky was justifiably pissed off with Charlotte inserting herself into what was Becky's title match. Of course that would be the smart direction to go in, and I think we all know what happens when we give credit to the intelligence of WWE's storyline decisions. Let Becky take the title off of Charlotte at Evolution and start a program with Asuka that leads the two of them having a match at Mania. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.T. Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I liked this show more than I should have. Rollins gets a million cool points for wearing the Infinity Kneepad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I quickly scrolled through the like 5 pages I hadn't read so this might have been mentioned but Meltzer was insistent last night on Twitter that the reaction to Becky was the exact reaction the WWE wanted, was why the match was laid out the way it was and why it was done in front of this crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 And Natural posted it here but I mentioned it in the general thread too but they really had the MMA Horsewomen starting the tease for Horsewomen vs Horsewomen last night complete with Marina Shafir calling the WWE 4H all whores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RIPPA Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Also there was just a great subtle callback (to the Mixed Match Challenge) on social media last night with Sami Zayn liking the WWE tweet about Becky attacking Charlotte 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 if you're looking for a favourable crowd reaction to a storyline, is new york the best possible place for it to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It kinda reminds me of their attempt at turning Bayley heel. In each case, both Bayley and Becky do the Ralphie thing where they're done taking the other person's shit and they lash out and beat someone's ass. That's going to get someone cheered 100% of the time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Craig H said: It kinda reminds me of their attempt at turning Bayley heel. In each case, both Bayley and Becky do the Ralphie thing where they're done taking the other person's shit and they lash out and beat someone's ass. That's going to get someone cheered 100% of the time. The last thing Becky needs is to have what happened with Bayley and now act like it never happened with this Boss and Hug tag team. Eventually Becky has to stand up for herself or the fans will completely give up on her. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, L_W_P said: Why are we assuming this is a Becky heel turn? Why can’t her actions lead to a Charlotte turn? Charlotte can just as easily cut a promo on SDL about Becky being jealous of Charlotte’s family & intro into the biz. Poor little Becky had to scratch and claw in the bingo halls of Ireland while Flair was being groomed for greatness, Becky was always the 4th Horsewoman etc Based on Charlotte's post match interview it seems this is where it's going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Becky's booked implosion screamed of a wrestler simply getting frustrated in the heat of battle, rather than a lead into a full blown heel turn. It also didn't help that Charlotte was the focus of her venom after screwing Becky out of the tap-out win. If you're going to turn someone heel, don't have them beat down someone that deserves the beatdown. That's why I think that LWP and Brysynner might be on point in calling for the Flair heel turn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yeah, you can easily have Charlotte be the one that turns heel here, since in the leadup, she "would be just as happy if Becky won", but wasted no time in nailing Becky with the Natural Selection when Mella was about to be tapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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