mattdangerously Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 We can't even get all of America to lighten up on pot. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 So MLW has a heavyweight (Low ki) and middleweight champion (MJF). The middleweight champ weighs more than the heavyweight champ. That kinda makes me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Riddle was telling people recently that he chose WWE over NJPW and that weed wasn't an issue with NJPW (don't get that part but whatever). I would've loved to see him fuck shit up in New Japan but it was time either way. He and Lee had stagnated a bit on the indies. When people ask about 'if not Roman, who?' Matt Riddle is who. He's got it all. Only things I can see going wrong is him not fitting in with the corporate structure of wwe or not being able to pull off scripted promos/being given the RVD treatment with those scripted promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Infinit said: So MLW has a heavyweight (Low ki) and middleweight champion (MJF). The middleweight champ weighs more than the heavyweight champ. That kinda makes me chuckle. Very CMLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Building a company around Matt Riddle would make Dana's head explode. For that reason alone it's worth a shot. Wasn't Riddle going around saying he wanted to retire Brock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Oyaji said: Riddle was telling people recently that he chose WWE over NJPW and that weed wasn't an issue with NJPW (don't get that part but whatever). I would've loved to see him fuck shit up in New Japan but it was time either way. He and Lee had stagnated a bit on the indies. When people ask about 'if not Roman, who?' Matt Riddle is who. He's got it all. Only things I can see going wrong is him not fitting in with the corporate structure of wwe or not being able to pull off scripted promos/being given the RVD treatment with those scripted promos. I still don't see the star power with Riddle. I know you, Rippa, and others really love him. In ring I do think he's great, but I don't dig the bro/stoner gimmick. I want to like it, but I feel something is missing and it will only get worse when he's force fed shit ass lines from creative. Yeah, maybe NJPW would be better... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 "Gimmick" ? 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Craig H said: I still don't see the star power with Riddle. I know you, Rippa, and others really love him. In ring I do think he's great, but I don't dig the bro/stoner gimmick. I want to like it, but I feel something is missing and it will only get worse when he's force fed shit ass lines from creative. Yeah, maybe NJPW would be better... Dude needs a mouthpiece. He's the least intimidating ass kicker around sounding like Jeff Spicoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 That's part of his charm. He's a lovable stoner goof with supreme confidence and coolness. I don't get Meltzer's complaint that he can't cut a promo, he can definitely talk. I mean, if you can get Heyman to be his mouthpiece, fine, but I like his promo style. It's not all just "bro, bro, bro," as this mini-doc demonstrates. He's got some range and even he recognizes that he kind of coasted a little bit with the mic/character work for a bit there. The original mini-doc that Kenny Johnson did is still up on Youtube and has him explain his basic approach to pro-wrestling and fleshes out his character. It's great. One plus of him going to WWE is he can't do that silly tombstone slam anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 To be fair - Meltzer said that Riddle would most likely be a modern day Kerry Von Erich in terms of how big a star he could be. And he also said that he cuts promos basically as well as Roman Reigns and clearly that doesn't stop them from pushing Reigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, RIPPA said: To be fair - Meltzer said that Riddle would most likely be a modern day Kerry Von Erich in terms of how big a star he could be Perhaps not the only reason to compare him to Kerry. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Are we talking Kerry Von Erich in Texas or mostly aimless midcarder Texas Tornado Kerry Von Erich? Count me in the crowd that doesn't get Matt Riddle. I don't really dislike him. More like i don't have a strong feeling about him one way or the other. I'd probably prefer to watch Roman Reigns, for whatever that's worth, and I'm mostly indifferent to Roman. 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: "Gimmick" ? Matt Riddle is the most methodist of method actors. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: Perhaps not the only reason to compare him to Kerry. I doubt Riddle has ever been as high as KVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Oyaji said: Only things I can see going wrong is him not fitting in with the corporate structure of wwe 6 hours ago, Oyaji said: weed 8 hours ago, mattdangerously said: We can't even get all of America to lighten up on pot. Well, if RVD can keep getting away with it periodically? I mean I can't think of anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 A large number of the roster smokes weed pretty liberally (I mean, even for just the pain relief if nothing else I can only imagine) and just pay the stupid fine WWE has for it. I can't see that being a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I'm misunderstood then. Either I'm not paying enough attention or it doesn't get a lot of press. Also, good for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Even if you don’t think Riddle’s great yet, he’s only been at this for about 3.5 years; and for nearly all of that he’s been a big enough indie star to be totally indulged in terms of wrestling/promo style. While I’d have preferred to see a New Japan run first, he strikes me as the kind of guy real coaching at the PC will help a lot. He’ll get direction, be told no, etc, and probably find more creativity with a little structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 So... Matt Riddle in a place where he can't no sell german suplexes and won't be allowed to do canadian destroyers? This sounds like a best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 He is going to debut in the crowd at Brooklyn Takeover. He's been telling people this lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I thought they showed him in the crowd at Takeover Brooklyn last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Yeah, but he'll have better seats this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I doubt Riddle has ever been as high as KVE. He can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Oyaji said: That's part of his charm. He's a lovable stoner goof with supreme confidence and coolness. I don't get Meltzer's complaint that he can't cut a promo, he can definitely talk. I mean, if you can get Heyman to be his mouthpiece, fine, but I like his promo style. It's not all just "bro, bro, bro," as this mini-doc demonstrates. He's got some range and even he recognizes that he kind of coasted a little bit with the mic/character work for a bit there. The original mini-doc that Kenny Johnson did is still up on Youtube and has him explain his basic approach to pro-wrestling and fleshes out his character. It's great. One plus of him going to WWE is he can't do that silly tombstone slam anymore. Yeah, I have to admit he sounds a lot better in that video than I've seen before. Maybe I just want more managers in wrestling again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I haven't seen many of Riddles matches, but I did see him interviewed (last year maybe?) by Dan Barry and Chuck Taylor. I oscillated back and forth between loving the dude and thinking he was kinda annoying, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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