tbarrie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I don't watch the weekly shows - why is the Kevin Owens/Braun Stroman cage match happening? Do the kayfabe authority figures just hate Kevin Owens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, The Natural said: Like to think I'm a better MMA fighter ;). My 10 yr old daughter is a better MMA fighter than Punk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, tbarrie said: I don't watch the weekly shows - why is the Kevin Owens/Braun Stroman cage match happening? Do the kayfabe authority figures just hate Kevin Owens? (Kayfabe) Because Kevin tried to be Braun's friend. For which: Braun flipped Owens' rental car. And then Braun dragged Owens in a Porta-john up to the stage and tipped it over with Kevin inside. Braun doesn't know how to be friends so Kevin tries, rightly, to run away. Angle then tells KO he gets Braun in a cage match. (Actually) Because Kevin is a super talent and knows exactly how to work with someone who's still relatively green like Strowman and can hold his hand through this and build him to be a credible challenger to Brock. To answer your second question, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, The Natural said: Like to think I'm a better MMA fighter ;). I also have cerebral palsy heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 The finish for KO/Braun should be the finish from Vince/Austin at St. Valentine's Day Massacre with Braun throwing KO into the cage, the cage swings open, Owens drops to the floor. Braun continues to look like a monster, while Owens can boast about having beaten the monster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 That sounds like a good plan that would help both guys get over but a better plan might be, have Braun maul KO for a few minutes then run into the cage and hurt himself and let KO work him over for the rest of the match until Braun hits one powerslam and pins him which then gets neither of them over. Perfect WWE booking 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sublime said: That sounds like a good plan that would help both guys get over but a better plan might be, have Braun maul KO for a few minutes then run into the cage and hurt himself and let KO work him over for the rest of the match until Braun hits one powerslam and pins him which then gets neither of them over. Perfect WWE booking Vince, you crazy bastard, is that you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: The finish for KO/Braun should be the finish from Vince/Austin at St. Valentine's Day Massacre with Braun throwing KO into the cage, the cage swings open, Owens drops to the floor. Braun continues to look like a monster, while Owens can boast about having beaten the monster. And would be fine if they didn't just do something similar with Roman and Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeah, but who would notice the repetition? Nobody pays attention to Brock-Roman stuff any more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said: (Actually) Because Kevin is a super talent and knows exactly how to work with someone who's still relatively green like Strowman and can hold his hand through this and build him to be a credible challenger to Brock. Huh? Braun has been around for 2-3 years now and has had multiple good-great matches and standout performances. How is Strowman still green to you? Why do you think this is happening for any other reason than to kill time while they try to figure out the main event scene and Braun's place in it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Eivion said: Huh? Braun has been around for 2-3 years now and has had multiple good-great matches and standout performances. How is Strowman still green to you? Why do you think this is happening for any other reason than to kill time while they try to figure out the main event scene and Braun's place in it? Honestly, I'm saying 'green' relatively. He's been wrestling for a total of maybe 5 years. He's completely fine for where he is and I enjoy his work. But working with someone like Owens who's been in the industry for, what, 15+ years now... that can only help him learn and sharpen his in-ring and promo skills. So that when his time to move up the card comes up again (which judging by the briefcase he lugs around, is soon), he's not just ready, but able to carry others as well. Just because the program isn't for the Universal Championship, doesn't mean it's time wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I don't think killing time necessarily means wasting it. I find the feud mostly fun. I get the relatively green comment to an extent. It just doesn't really feel accurate that they are using this a teaching moment for Braun so much as trying have the two do something fun that won't really hurt either while figuring out what is next for both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I think if Owens wins, he's more likely to be put through the ring like JBL was versus Big Show and then crawls out from under the ring to win, than being thrown through the cage like Vince or Brock were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Vince, you crazy bastard, is that you? Goddamnit pal what gave it away damnit. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 hours ago, The Natural said: Like to think I'm a better MMA fighter ;). At sixty years old with a bad back and two bad knees, I'll wager I'm a better MMA fighter than Punk, (at least I know how to properly throw a strike). Granted, I'm practically immobile, but at least I have an excuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, tbarrie said: Yeah, but who would notice the repetition? Nobody pays attention to Brock-Roman stuff any more. It's really disappointing how that's shaken out. I still consider their WM31 match to be one of the best bouts they've ever had close out a Mania. Putting Strowman and Owens in a cage is counterintuitive. The best part of their matches is Strowman running laps around ringside and steamrolling Owens. I'm assuming they'll do that spot when Owens is trying to avoid entering the cage pre-match or they'll have Braun be a bully or sore loser post-match. Total guess though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeah my initial thought was a way for Owens to win without Braun having to lose by pin or submission but I thought the same thing last month when Braun was the absolute last guy that needed to win MITB but they feel he has to win everything. For whatever it's worth, early local ads were advertising Owens/Reigns for HIAC in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Overly Critical Man said: I think if Owens wins, he's more likely to be put through the ring like JBL was versus Big Show and then crawls out from under the ring to win, than being thrown through the cage like Vince or Brock were. Austin was thrown through the cage by pre-Big Show, Paul Wight, who burst through the ring, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, DreamBroken said: For whatever it's worth, early local ads were advertising Owens/Reigns for HIAC in September. It's been done, but I tend to enjoy their matches. For ten bucks a month, they could do worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Austin was thrown through the cage by pre-Big Show, Paul Wight, who burst through the ring, IIRC. You're right. I suffered viewing dyslexia there and mixed up the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 13 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: It's really disappointing how that's shaken out. I still consider their WM31 match to be one of the best bouts they've ever had close out a Mania. In complete agreement. Lesnar/Reigns from Wrestle Mania XXXI is a contender for the greatest WrestleMania main event with Rock/Austin X-Seven, HHH/Michaels/Benoit XX, Edge/Undertaker XXIV, Undetaker/Michaels XXVI and Orton/Batista/Bryan XXX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Crossposting from the photo thread: WWE.com does ridiculous things all the time, including weird nostalgia driven photoshoots, but this one might top it all: https://www.wwe.com/shows/extremerules/2018/gallery/wwe-ecw-superstar-impersonations-photos#fid-40238486 Now I wish they had done this for Clash of Champions and had English and Rusev cosplay as JJ and Blanchard or whatever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, Matt D said: Crossposting from the photo thread: WWE.com does ridiculous things all the time, including weird nostalgia driven photoshoots, but this one might top it all: https://www.wwe.com/shows/extremerules/2018/gallery/wwe-ecw-superstar-impersonations-photos#fid-40238486 Now I wish they had done this for Clash of Champions and had English and Rusev cosplay as JJ and Blanchard or whatever. These are great. I particularly like Cactus Rusev and Shinsuke Sabu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Rollins vs. Ziggler going 30 minutes in an Iron Man match, more like a Three Stages of Hell one ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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