supremebve Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Craig H said: Fuckin' part-time fighters just showing up whenever and getting rewarded with title shots right away If he pulls off this upset, I'd be shocked...he does train with Matt Serra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Man I was joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Craig H said: Man I was joking. How the hell is someone supposed to figure out what is and what ain't a joke in this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's all jokes until some one says otherwise. Even then...it's probably just a bigger joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just seeing the footage on the news I couldn't help but laugh at how much it looks like every WWE angle ever and with how often people have wondered what would happen if any of the WWE backstage stuff happened in real life. Thanks to this bizarre goofball we have our answer, which was pretty much what everyone expected: You would immediately be arrested and charged with assault. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 So let me get this straight. Al Iaquinta has only fought once in the last three years. A win over an un-ranked Diego Sanchez. He's eligible to fight Khabib. However, in that same time frame, Paul Felder has been way more active and won more fights, and also fought a ranked opponent in Edson Barboza, who he had a very close fight with, can't fight Khabib? The New York State Athletic Commission is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenyabaxterZXW Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 The fact that all that footage is ready and edited to go so quickly puts me ill at ease for some reason. Something just tells me rather than punish McGregor, Dana White is going to try and book McGregor/Nurmagomedov even quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Well, the new owners are in the entertainment business so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Anyone that thinks this was planned is missing a brain cell or two. And a billion dollar company with a full staff of video editors pumping out a video in 24 hours certainly isn't unusual. I wasn't sure when we'd see Conor in the UFC again anyway, now I just find it even less likely it will be anytime soon. Its easy for UFC to turn the other way when Conor drops some slurs or flaunts around in his fur coat, its a whole different issue when his behavior injures other fighters. Every company/promotion has a tipping point and I think Conor finally found it, they won't fire him but I don't expect to see him fighting for awhile if ever for UFC again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 It's not that I think it was planned, but that they are trying to turn it into a promotional tool for McGregor's dramatic "comeback" and return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 4/5/2018 at 10:53 PM, Niners Fan in CT said: I didn't really expect him to go outside, I don't care for the "come inside" comment. What does that even mean? "DRIVER! Stop the bus. Everyone clear the path. We have business to settle. This ends tonight." Perhaps Conor's like a vampire, he can only enter a building if he's invited in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 35 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: It's not that I think it was planned, but that they are trying to turn it into a promotional tool for McGregor's dramatic "comeback" and return. Well the comeback isn't tomorrow. They're not going to link everyone back to a six month or year old episode of Embedded buried on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Buddy of mine who's slightly getting into the sport had his lady friend's brother tell him he should order the PPV and watch tomorrow with me, because she's out of town and he was "hey, Curt likes the fights, let's see". Then he got the bad news. He tells me the main fights are off and I get on here and read about THIS shit just now. Now, if you are a casual fan, what is your response? I get the prowres feel of "they're working us" but I also get the real negative feel of "this is supposed to be a real sporting event, they're backing down because this guy was a shithead". I'm not sure how I'd feel. You could bring him back (which will probably happen in some promotion) but this is absurd. In any case I just want to see Rose beat some ass just based on the commercials alone, since I haven't seen their previous match. But this kind of ridiculous shit is about as absurd as the McMahon/Cena-style suit Pat Miletich is wearing on the CES show I'm watching right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: I get the prowres feel of "they're working us" Why? If they're paying the NYPD and real judges to work people, then the WWE has been undercutting folks for two decades by using local wrestlers as fake security, paramedics, and policemen. Also, using real glass would be the dumbest thing you can do ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I just mean in the sense that Dana can somehow have a comeback fight that we'd actually pay to see. And me and my buddy are definitely playing Nintendo all night instead of paying for the fights haha. When you got TMNT and Super Mario 2 at hand along with any record you want to listen to ever, all bets are off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, Curt McGirt said: I just mean in the sense that Dana can somehow have a comeback fight that we'd actually pay to see. As opposed to the comeback fight people were going to pay to see without what happened on Thursday? Yeah, that doesn't make sense. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Yeah, thinking about that, true. Even Bellator or somebody would bank on that. The buying public is the buying public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 And that also pretty much answers my question. If they want to see it, they'll pay. UFC might be under fire for a minute, but the fans are the fans, as stated earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 People were going to pay to see McGregor already but this whole story makes his eventual comeback even bigger. UFC will most definitely exploit that. Like I said previously, he's now the new Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Conor will have his diehard fans and his hateful detractors. Both parties will pay good money to either watch him try to redeem himself or get his ass beat. Dana will promote the Conor vs. Anybody fight regardless even though he already has a sterling example of what happens when you repeatedly give second and third chances to a fighter that never fucking learns from their mistakes. The McGregor name will still draw money. You can always count on Conor McGregor. He will never fail to find a way to embarrass himself and your organization and sadly, there is still money to be made in watching him melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: People were going to pay to see McGregor already but this whole story makes his eventual comeback even bigger. UFC will most definitely exploit that. Like I said previously, he's now the new Tyson. I don't think he is the new Tyson in that boxing was able to go on without Tyson and create new stars without Tyson for the better part of 4 years. Was he the biggest star when he came back? Yes, but you also had Oscar De La Hoya. You had Felix Trinidad. You had Prince Naseem Hamed. You had a large core of fighters who if not were solid TV draws were on the brink of being an established name. Tyson basically had three or four different runs w/ various degrees of success. Outside of being a sideshow, McGregor's career is just a large three or four year cluster. Hardcore boxing fans knew of Tyson around 84, he got recognition around 85ish, and started winning titles in late 86. The sideshow aspect started around the same time as McGregor length/timeline wise but at a much different degree as we're still eight or nine years away from the Holyfield fights and about a decade and a half from FUCK YOU TIL YOU LOVE ME. The media amplified much of what was going on in Tyson's life in addition to the Miss Black America pageant stuff. So much of it was speculation. Yes, Tyson had vulgar and volatile interviews but much of the other stuff was behind the scenes. McGregor is already in full tailspin and he won a version of his first title not even three years ago. If anything, McGregor is Riddick Bowe except anyone in the McGregor entourage can sub for Rock Newman. However, Rock Newman's pro black Paul E. Dangerously bit is way more likable and appealing than Artem Lobov or Dillon Danis. It's funny going back and watching Bowe/Coetzer and Larry Merchant indirectly supporting Apartheid and white Afrikaners trying to be moderates because they had to paint Rock to be a troll heel. Some things just don't age well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I never believed in curses until I started paying attention to this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 If we woke up to the news that Connor was found dead would anyone here really be shocked at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said: Anyone that thinks this was planned is missing a brain cell or two. And a billion dollar company with a full staff of video editors pumping out a video in 24 hours certainly isn't unusual. I wasn't sure when we'd see Conor in the UFC again anyway, now I just find it even less likely it will be anytime soon. Its easy for UFC to turn the other way when Conor drops some slurs or flaunts around in his fur coat, its a whole different issue when his behavior injures other fighters. Every company/promotion has a tipping point and I think Conor finally found it, they won't fire him but I don't expect to see him fighting for awhile if ever for UFC again. I don't think anything was staged. That said, if you don't think the new Hollywood elite entertainment owners are not going to exploit this to make money you are crazy. Conor is not getting released because Bellator would exploit him and make tons of cash. The sad part of this story is that despite the world thinking Conor should get banned, he won't, because there are so many places from Bellator to boxing that will exploit his return to fighting that he can do whatever he wants and get away with it. Welcome to our society today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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