RIPPA Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Okay - time to start the actual thread for it. It should go in the movie folder but as already noted today, you guys hate that folder Release date: April 10 Another trailer for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I'm looking forward to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Richard Deitsch wrote a pretty positive review on the Athletic today. Also interviewed the director. As feared, Shoemaker is one of the main non-worker talking heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 8:19 PM, odessasteps said: As feared, Shoemaker is one of the main non-worker talking heads. Dave wrote a lengthy positive review in the new WON and - in a nice way - basically says Shoemaker is the only bad part of the doc but of course he is featured heavily. Dave then spends times breaking down all Shoemaker's comical claims so I am happy Example Quote Shoemaker said that wrestling was changing when Andre was out with the broken ankle with Vince McMahon going national. but Andre's injury was in 1981, and he was only out of action for a few months. The national expansion wasn't until 1984, and Andre was pulled from going from territory-to-territory to being exclusively WWF and New Japan, and by late 1986, exclusively WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Quote Don't forget the Andre the Giant documentary at 10 p.m. Eastern tomorrow night. If you have any questions after the movie is over, send them to us because we can probably answer and we'll also be doing a show with Pat Laprade, who was part of the crew that did the documentary sometime next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hey, this thing was pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Indeed it was. That scene towards the end where Vince actually starts choking up while talking about him..... when an old school alpha male like Vince McMahon is willing to let himself be seen getting emotional about someone you know that was a special person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Yeah he's got a real soft spot for him. Mark Henry told a story when talking with Vince about him and they both got choked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The claim that Vince came up with the name Hulk Hogan because it appeal to Irish fans is so weird. Is Hogan really a popular Irish name? I guess we should be happy he was called Hulk O Grady or Hulk O Sullivan or some shit like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 4 hours ago, BrianS81177 said: Indeed it was. That scene towards the end where Vince actually starts choking up while talking about him..... when an old school alpha male like Vince McMahon is willing to let himself be seen getting emotional about someone you know that was a special person. Call me a cynic but Vince was totally "working" that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 IDK i think if Vince was "working" the moment i think it'd be bigger and more grandiose. Vince is more later years Pacino than he is early years Pacino when it comes to his acting method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Anyone know a good place to find a map like they showed of the territory days...but where you can better see what each territory was not just the ones they spoke of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Do you mean something like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Wrestling_Alliance_territories#/media/File:NWA_Professional_Wrestling_Territories.png That link goes to the one on wiki - it might be a little easier to read. But just know it is only NWA territories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 hours ago, hammerva said: The claim that Vince came up with the name Hulk Hogan because it appeal to Irish fans is so weird. Is Hogan really a popular Irish name? I guess we should be happy he was called Hulk O Grady or Hulk O Sullivan or some shit like that. Vince Sr supposedly came up with "Bruiser Brody" for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Do you mean something like this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 16 hours ago, RIPPA said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Wrestling_Alliance_territories#/media/File:NWA_Professional_Wrestling_Territories.png That link goes to the one on wiki - it might be a little easier to read. But just know it is only NWA territories This one is better because the WWE version always leaves out Houston Wrestling. I know someone had said that Vince was looking pretty old in this, but how about Cary Elwes? Holy crap man, what happened? I was genuinely surprised his daughter not only got a mention but was actually featured in this, considering past controversy regarding her and her mother. Overall, I really enjoyed it, it felt like it was shot well and the interviews were fantastic. Good to know Tim White is still alive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: This one is better because the WWE version always leaves out Houston Wrestling. The Texas wrestling lineage can get a bit confusing TBF. There was a long period of time where Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Amarillo were all sharing talent on the regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pete said: The Texas wrestling lineage can get a bit confusing TBF. There was a long period of time where Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Amarillo were all sharing talent on the regular. This is true, but Houston > rest of Texas always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: I know someone had said that Vince was looking pretty old in this, but how about Cary Elwes? I actually thought Elwes looked better than he had in a long time. I'm thinking he had some work done to look a bit younger when he decided to make a living off of telling Princess Bride stories instead of making more straight-to-VOD serial killer movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 He'll always be Robin Hood with an English accent to me. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Andre did end up leaving his entire estate to his daughter. Meltzer said something like "that helped thaw some of the feelings in the relationship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP Steve Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Actually, my reaction was meh. Fun to see the old footage. Hadn't heard of the Shoemaker guy, but he was okay here. Not surprised to see Kevin Dunn listed as an executive producer, because this was definitely a WWF-centric version of events, with what seemed like a third of the film devoted to Wrestlemania III. Vince being credited as the guy who discovered you could put wrestling on cable was funny, given that GCW had been on TBS for years before Vince went national. His innovation was figuring out how to cash in on the national exposure. But history belongs to the winners, so there you go. The only disturbing thing is that Andre's early death was treated as an inevitability due to the acromegaly. His raging alcoholism was treated as a wonder and a joke rather than a contributing if not decisive factor in his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, LP Steve said: The only disturbing thing is that Andre's early death was treated as an inevitability due to the acromegaly. His raging alcoholism was treated as a wonder and a joke rather than a contributing if not decisive factor in his death. Elwes addressed this directly, saying that people treated it this way when it was clear that Andre was drinking because he was in pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Big Show had the surgery to arrest acromegaly only about a decade after Andre was diagnosed, and it seems based on his doctor's interview that he just decided not to go forward with any procedure. He was older in the 80s than Show would be when he had the surgery, so it may not have been as effective, but it almost certainly would have added years to his life. It's tragic he didn't quite understand how it would work or felt compelled to continue working without stopping for time to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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