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I've never stopped watching for a long period of time but I remember the first time I felt really uncomfortable about wrestling was when I was 15 and Steve Austin (a face) stunned Stacy Keibler (another face) because she didn't like beer. Made no sense and felt even more gross considering Austin was just a little over a year removed from his arrest.

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Christ Starrcade 97 is the worst. It's not just the main. All night the heels kept winning. On the show that should've, by absolutely all logical booking, been the night WCW ran wild on the nWo.

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Vince Russo in wcw pretty much killed wrestling for me till about 03. I was looking forward to it like most people and what I got was the Outsiders getting lap dances in the ring and Oklahoma. 

Leading up to that moment Starrcade 97 and the finger poke of doom did not help. 

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I don't think it was just Eddie and Benoit that soured me.  That was a huge part of it but the product as far as I was concerned was at an all-time low from right around 2008 or so to 2011.   At least a 3-year period.   The Trump bullshit,  the money contests,  the RAW GM,  the Hornswaggle "comedy",  the celebrity guest hosts,  the divas division,  all the Johnny Ace and Vince muscle dude projects,   the fucking awful diva search and NXT crap..    Complete fucking trash.  Johnny Ace is worse than Vince Russo.   WWE during that time period is WORSE than WCW's dying days. 

It was Daniel Bryan,  The Shield,  The Wyatts, etc.. that got me back enjoying WWE again.  

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16 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

I don't think it was just Eddie and Benoit that soured me.  That was a huge part of it but the product as far as I was concerned was at an all-time low from right around 2008 or so to 2011.   At least a 3-year period.   The Trump bullshit,  the money contests,  the RAW GM,  the Hornswaggle "comedy",  the celebrity guest hosts,  the divas division,  all the Johnny Ace and Vince muscle dude projects,   the fucking awful diva search and NXT crap..    Complete fucking trash.  Johnny Ace is worse than Vince Russo.   WWE during that time period is WORSE than WCW's dying days. 

It was Daniel Bryan,  The Shield,  The Wyatts, etc.. that got me back enjoying WWE again.  

I didn't watch WWE at all from late 2003 until 2012 or so for many of the same reasons (though mainly bc I didn't have cable).  Every now and then I'd catch it in a hotel or something or read a recap and nothing I saw gave me an interest in getting back into it.  The pipe bomb promo was what made me start checking it out again.

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I was out from July ‘01 through December ‘02. No particular reason other than that I became bored with it. Plus, I had other interests that really occupied my time (music and girls), and I had no problem ditching wrestling for those two things during that time.

I eventually balanced it out.

Only time I watched it in that down period, was the ‘02 Rumble. My friend was staying over, we just burned a few and were sitting, watching the old scrolling TV Guide channel while zoned out. I saw the Rumble and was like, “Oh shit, we should watch this!” Going in cold, not knowing what was going on story-wise was fun. He never watched wrestling, but he enjoyed it. His favorite part? Undertaker beating the piss out of Maven. Good times. 

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I've never completely stopped watching but there have been a few periods when the amount I was watching dropped drastically. Hogan coming into WCW and turning Flair into basically every other stupid heel he fought left a sour taste in my mouth so I didn't watch a ton of WCW for a couple of years. Heel Michael Cole made me watch RAW on mute or pretty much watch the show on fast forward.

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Nothing ever made me stop watching, but I know of events that drove two friends away from wrestling.  The first was Starcade '97.  My friend came over and we were super hyped about the Sting/Hogan match.  Come to think of it there were a fair amount of people at school that were heavily into Crow Sting and wanted to see him win.  So we watch the show and the main event comes on.  Everything's going well until we saw Sting lose yet he didn't.  It was like a record scratch and we both asked each other "Wait, did Sting lose?"  After the wacky explanation of why it wasn't a loss we lost all interest and my friend never watched wrestling again.  And when talking with people at school about it they were just perplexed by it all and just stuck with WWF.

The second one of course is the Katie Vick angle.  My other friend would watch Raw with us and was generally amused by it all.  But once that came on we ended up watching other stuff on Mondays (had it recorded on VCR until we stopped doing Monday hangouts)

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I was a lifelong WWF fan until I went to the Gulf in 1990 and even though I couldn't watch one second of the Sgt Slaughter/Iraq angle I could read about it in the Stars and Stripes newspaper. That shit was personally offensive to me and I quit watching them entirely until russo ran me off of WCW and I've never really been fully invested even then.

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I tuned out of WWE when the Invasion tanked but I was already watching less and less as university kicked my ass. Tuned back in for Mania XX for the feel good moment but couldn't maintain it and then was out for sure after the Benoit incident. Started watching again when Daniel Bryan signed and, man, they didn't make that an easy road for a fan to go down.

I guess I was never fully out of wrestling in general cause I was still checking random ROH and Japanese matches, but maybe a match every two weeks most of that time.

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Well, because he's showing what happens if you don't use his bail bond service. You have to make an old timey jail escape to get out. I don't know if that's better than the threat of The Lethal Weapon looming over your head tbf.

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7 minutes ago, Craig H said:

To be fair, Golic isn't the best at interviewing and that question was all kinds of dumb. It really did sound like he was asking Ronda about time travel.

Seriously.  "In time, could you go back?"  "So you could go back eventually?"  "Could you see yourself going back?" Just three off the top of my head, all more natural and less ridiculous than the way he phrased it.

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