Just Dave Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Drew's "On the Sauce Weekend" part 3: Sauce With a Vengeance. -Watched Dean Ambrose cash in on Seth Rollins. Damn what a pop. I have no idea why WWE refuses to pull the trigger on Dean long-term. Damn that was cool. Just look at Dean peering down at Seth after he hits him with the briefcase and is waiting for Chioda to ring the bell. Face is like "I finally got you, motherfucker." Sometimes WWE just run into these great long term payoffs, and this might be my favorite. Rollins made Ambrose miserable for a year, and Dean finally gets payback, by taking from Seth what Seth loves the most. Just tremendous shit. -Finally watched the Finals of the UK Tourney. I still think Kyuubi's obsession with Tyler Bate is a bit disturbing, but I get why he likes the guy. Kid is a prodigy. If he can keep his shit together, dude will be a star. I like Pete Dunne, too. -Rewatched the main event of this last NXT Takeover. This is the match that kind of reignited my love for wrestling. I've never stopped watching the product, but shit has been so lackluster lately i'd kind of lost interest in the matches themselves. My nxt viewing has gone to nil since the last class got called up. I really enjoyed Enzo and Cass, American Alpha, Balor, Samoa Joe, those guys, and caught a little bit of Bobby Roode, but I haven't been able to raise any interest internally. I watched this the first time on a whim. I was bored and couldn't sleep, and good God was this a revelation. Andrade Almas might be in my top 5 now. I remember reading at one point about how badly he was floundering in nxt, but whoever that guy was, he wasn't the Almas I was expecting. Holy balls. And I'm not a huge Gargano fan. I think he oversells and is constantly trying to have "epic matchez" rather than tell stories, but he was game here. I also like how they didn't have Candice LeRae come to the ring with him. That would've telegraphed her going after Selina Vega. Instead, they had her jump the rail, which was dope as balls. I have a small list of matches in my mind that I show my wife when she gives me a hard time about loving this. This match has gone on there. She watched it, threw her hands in the air, and said "I get it." -This years Rumble is one of the best I can remember. Dug just about everything, other than how the New Day continually gets jobbed out in situations like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt D said: Isn't more wrestling better than less? You don't have to watch them all live in 2018. You want to see more of Randy Orton? What's the matter with you.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: You want to see more of Randy Orton? What's the matter with you.. He’ll be on every show now and not just every other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I remember a few years ago I was going to the MSG Christmas house show and I was dreading the Cena-Orton main event. Then the match happened and they tore the roof off the place with a legit ****1/2 match that was incredible. Point being is that when he's in the mood Orton can be really great. Problem is when he doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 12 hours ago, RIPPA said: But...but...What does that mean for the historical legacy of Survivor Series? Which as you all know is famous for being the only time all year when RAW and Smackdown go head to head????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 If they do decide to keep the Raw vs SD theme for Survivor Series, they really gotta bring back those dope half blue half red ropes from (I think) Bragging Rights. Curious now to see if there are 4 MITB matches with two men's and two women's matches. Maybe they have people from both brands in it and they pick the title like they do with the rumbles. Four would be Overkill. Also, this means that almost every ppv event is going to be nearly entirely title matches, unless some are left off the show, devaluing them further. The boat was missed by not experimenting with the secondary or lower tier titles being main event during the brand exclusive ppvs in my opinion, especially with regard to the IC title with Brock being gone mostly and Miz being so fantastic lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 can they take a page from NJPW and have secondary titles and feuds main event these shows while someone like Roman or Cena appear in tag matches or maybe just an interview segment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Bro.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: can they take a page from NJPW and have secondary titles and feuds main event these shows while someone like Roman or Cena appear in tag matches or maybe just an interview segment? I mean you have Sasha vs Asuka and you got a main event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin's Beard Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 21 hours ago, Matt D said: Isn't more wrestling better than less? You don't have to watch them all live in 2018. With 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of Smackdown, 1 hour each of NXT, 205 Live & Main Event every week, plus a 4 hour (plus potentially another hour for the preshow) PPV every month? 36 hours of WWE wrestling a month makes me want to scream about the old cliche, "less is more". Sure, you don't have to watch everything. The 1 hour shows don't really have much to do with the PPVs. Even Raw & Smackdown are skippable because the PPVs tend to do a decent job recapping everything relevant to the show you're watching. But spreading your creative people so thin to fill all the content has a negative effect even when you don't watch everything. They have to burn through programmes quicker, they burn through gimmicks and feuds quicker, it's got consequences. Especially in a company where so much of it is channelled through one crazy old man. So yeah, "less is more". If, somehow, the WWE don't produce enough wrestling every month for someone then I'd suggest that person would be hardcore enough to know that wrestling exists outside of the WWE, in which case there is literally more wrestling available at the click of a button than at any other time in history. From New Japan to small indies in places as far flung as Portugal & Australia. I understand why the WWE want to monopolise wrestling but I'm not a WWE shareholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kropotkin's Beard said: With 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of Smackdown, 1 hour each of NXT, 205 Live & Main Event every week, plus a 4 hour (plus potentially another hour for the preshow) PPV every month? 36 hours of WWE wrestling a month makes me want to scream about the old cliche, "less is more". Sure, you don't have to watch everything. The 1 hour shows don't really have much to do with the PPVs. Even Raw & Smackdown are skippable because the PPVs tend to do a decent job recapping everything relevant to the show you're watching. But spreading your creative people so thin to fill all the content has a negative effect even when you don't watch everything. They have to burn through programmes quicker, they burn through gimmicks and feuds quicker, it's got consequences. Especially in a company where so much of it is channelled through one crazy old man. So yeah, "less is more". If, somehow, the WWE don't produce enough wrestling every month for someone then I'd suggest that person would be hardcore enough to know that wrestling exists outside of the WWE, in which case there is literally more wrestling available at the click of a button than at any other time in history. From New Japan to small indies in places as far flung as Portugal & Australia. I understand why the WWE want to monopolise wrestling but I'm not a WWE shareholder. There's a difference between Raw and a "PPV" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt D said: There's a difference between Raw and a "PPV" though. There are those that would disagree with this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 In order to contest that, I'd have to watch three hours of Raw live every week. More power to Kris if he wants to do that. He can win the battle. I think I've got a fine handle on the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 As someone whose WWE consumption is 20 minutes of Mixed Match Challenge and social media posts, I don't know how people watch so much, especially live. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I barely have time to watch any individual matches from each week that are talked about favorably here. It's hard to believe there was a time in my life where I consumed maybe 6-8 hours a week of wrestling as it aired. It does help that there's so much content that really isn't worth watching and heroes who are willing to parse through it and pimp the good stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 For those that hadn't seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 RAW has been generally really good lately. Smackdown has become a fucking disaster though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I keep up with WWE thru the youtube channel. If something warrants it, I hunt down the entire match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: RAW has been generally really good lately. Smackdown has become a fucking disaster though. The SDL tag division has been good. Other than that the booking has odd and/or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 SDL's booking around the main event with AJ trying to get Kami over, Kevin and Sami sort of breaking up, sort of heel Daniel Bryan, sort of heel Shane McMahon, and now suddenly Ziggler and Corbin has been a mess. And the women's division has been treading water for a while now. You're right though, the tag teams are killing it right now. I hope Rusev can get a push after Wrestlemania cause him against Styles would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Also now announced for RAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Eivion said: The SDL tag division has been good. Other than that the booking has odd and/or bad. There's good wrestling. But Christ Almighty the show is just aggressively dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 That is because Road Dogg is aggressively dumb 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Is he actually the head person (obviously there’s Vince) of the Smackdown side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, RIPPA said: That is because Road Dogg is aggressively dumb This is true. Very very true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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