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FEBRUARY 2018 WRESTLING DISCUSSION.


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2 hours ago, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said:

I was thinking they did it at a couple house shows, but can't find any evidence of that.  In any case, yeah, Bischoff shot it down the day of a tv taping.  I think I remember an interview with Michael Hayes where he claimed it was Ole's idea, so not really sure if it was his or Sid's idea.  Sid was the one who lobbied for them to get brought in to WCW.

Supposedly, the idea was that Kane and Kole would be convicts and Col. Parker would be "boss' of the chain gang.  Of course, the optics were bad and they probably would have looked more like slaves.  One aspect of the gimmick did make it to tv.  Harlem Heat wore orange jumpsuits to the ring for a couple weeks (with their "convict numbers' covered by tape).

I'm kinda surprised they thought (correctly) that this gimmick was too racist, but decided to run with a really tan white guy pretending to be black and doing a Little Richard/flamboyantly gay gimmick.  On paper, Badd's gimmick looks like an even more offensive idea.  Granted, Badd's gimmick would never get past the "frozen nazi with a Jewish manager" stage today.

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Nash has always had his eye on the pay cheque and where he's positioned but to say he had no passion for the business is ludicrous otherwise he wouldn't still be making indie dates prior to his recent surgery.

Hes one of the guys Austin always talks about regarding constantly talking the biz and booking the territory, so many here seem to be confusing passion with effort - He's not gonna kill himself to put on a five star match when he's getting paid the same regardless, and I respect that more than I respect a nutcase like Benoit.

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As a black guy who was a in grade school during Badd's WCW run I liked him as a face I just wasn't crazy about his lack of a legit finisher compared to other guys.

Also, I don't remember him being portrayed as black, and from watching a few WCW PPVs here and there on the network I don't remember anything. Was I just missing it as a kid? He always seemed like a tan white guy to me.

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14 minutes ago, Ramo2653 said:

As a black guy who was a in grade school during Badd's WCW run I liked him as a face I just wasn't crazy about his lack of a legit finisher compared to other guys.

Also, I don't remember him being portrayed as black, and from watching a few WCW PPVs here and there on the network I don't remember anything. Was I just missing it as a kid? He always seemed like a tan white guy to me.

I'm black and I completely thought he was a black guy back then. Either Mero was using the same serum as C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man or he's going to die of skin cancer b/c he was really dark.

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13 minutes ago, cwoy2j said:

I'm black and I completely thought he was a black guy back then. Either Mero was using the same serum as C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man or he's going to die of skin cancer b/c he was really dark.

He seems to have had a procedure to remove his skin and replace it with vulcanized rubber, so he might be in the clear. 

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15 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:

I couldn't remember if the whole thing was Sid's idea or just hiring them.

Sid talked about it in a shoot. He was the one who got them and Parker hired. He based it on a news story about Louisiana's governor getting into trouble with regards to gambling. So the idea was Parker was a casino owner the governor owed a lot of money to. To pay off the loan he gives Parker the two baddest convicts in the prison on work release. 

Which as an angle sounds good but visually was not going to fly even in 93. 

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Supposedly, the idea with Kane and Kole as convicts was that they would eventually turn on their abusive white slave owner I mean, casino owner and become super babyfaces.   'Cause if there's anything wrestling audiences in the South are likely to cheer, it's two black guys portraying hardened criminals.

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6 minutes ago, Victator said:

Seems like a sharp guy with a good mind for wrestling. He insists that line was written by Russo and he asked multiple times if that was what Russo meant to write.

Now if it was anyone but Russo I would question it. 

Eh, Russo's a convenient excuse for what may well have just been a verbal mistake. 

But either way, good to know he's an interesting shoot interview. I'll have to seek him out. 

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1 hour ago, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said:

Supposedly, the idea with Kane and Kole as convicts was that they would eventually turn on their abusive white slave owner I mean, casino owner and become super babyfaces.   'Cause if there's anything wrestling audiences in the South are likely to cheer, it's two black guys portraying hardened criminals.

Black wrestlers got over big in WCW, when they were allowed to.  Those Center Stage crowds were pretty diverse.

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3 hours ago, cwoy2j said:

I'm black and I completely thought he was a black guy back then. Either Mero was using the same serum as C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man or he's going to die of skin cancer b/c he was really dark.

In his shoot he talks about being backstage at a BET awards show during that time so he was fooling a lot of people. 

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