Kropotkin's Beard Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, OSJ said: Joey Ryan is dangerously close to becoming just "the dick guy" and I don't want that to happen and you shouldn't either. Ryan is far more talented then that and while he's coming up on forty, he realistically has another decade ahead of him, and I'd like to see that spent putting on good matches, not doing everything to build up to a humor spot that I no longer find funny. Isn't getting the best reaction to the very minimum of effort & absolutely zero danger of injury pretty much the most traditional pro wrestling thing? I mean yeah, Joey Ryan could do a lot more of that but like you say, dude is approaching 40. He's done his fair share of dumb shit in his first few years and has been cruising by on a dumb gimmick and lame comedy spots for over a decade. I might not want to watch it but probably smarter doing what Joey Ryan has done than Nigel McGuinness or Necro Butcher did (I was really struggling to think of indy guys who didn't end up in the WWE for a decent amount of time. And I know Nigel is there now but c'mon, you know what I mean) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 If Joey Ryan is pulling in six figures by using his dick to flip people, more power to him. The most offensive thing in this thread is the allegation that poutine is vile. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Raziel403 said: Motherfuckers here acting like there weren't kids aged in the single digits accounting for at least 15% of the crowd in the ECW Arena in the mid-90's and that the much vanuted Attitude Era didn't exist, so now we're pearl clutching over Joey Ryan's dick. You know I referenced both CZW and Attitude Era WWF? Or was that just inconveniant> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 My brain has dovetailed into a deep want for a chibi Sasha shirt with "BEST IN THE WORLD, (possibly, with vagina!!)" on it (presumably in kanji). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Props to Joey for making that much money off of something so simple. He doesn't have to jump off of buildings, inhale a bunch of dust from light tubes, bleed all over the place, etc. to make his money. Hogan made boat loads of money with a pillow soft big boot and a leg drop. Joey Ryan does it with a couple of his moves. The guy that wrote that letter would have eventually found something that would have offended his delicate sensibilities. There's no need for any kind of disclaimer before shows because you can do the research in advance and in this guy's case, he's a piece of shit that's way too ignorant and with way too much hate in his heart. This letter was bound to be written at some point. Also, poutine is great. I feel like it's something I can only have once a year for fear that I'll have a heart attack, but it's so good. Fried potatoes? Good. Cheese? Good. Gravy? Good. And then there's however it's doctored up. I've had it with carne asada and that was really good and again with slow roasted shredded pork. Poutine is a top 5 awful food that tastes really good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I agree, the original question of whether a Joey Ryan appearance warrants a disclaimer is No. Would the complaint have been the same against a bronco buster or that one time I watched Sid drag a guy around by his genitals for a full minute? I don't know. But the fact is dudes have been touching each other's junk in wrestling for a long time now. If someone is just now getting offended then they aren't a fan anyway so who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 You give someone a body slam by grabbing a fistful of junk and for some dudes, shoving your thumb way too deep into someone's crack. That's apparently ok. Distill that down to what Joey Ryan does with his junk and suddenly it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Well, that's the difference between "latent" and "overt." Yes, there's all manner of sexual subtext to what goes on in wrestling, but there's a big difference between that and a dude who's gimmick is LOOK AT MY DICK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I don't like the guy at all, but he makes friends a lot of money with that Chuck Tingle stuff, so what can you do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I don't think it's that unreasonable at all to expect promotions to post some kind of notice when their shows are going to feature excessive violence, R-rated language, or overtly sexual content. That said, I know nothing about the promotion in question and how they advertise themselves, or if an attendee should've had a reasonable expectation that this wasn't going to be a kid-friendly show. The e-mail writer definitely seems like the type of person who's just generally ignorant and oblivious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Does getting juice count as “excessive / R-rated” violence Or is that things like barbed wire or thumbtacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I guess I'm thinking more deathmatch type stuff, but I definitely don't want to the be the wrestling ESRB on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, EVA said: I don't think it's that unreasonable at all to expect promotions to post some kind of notice when their shows are going to feature excessive violence, R-rated language, or overtly sexual content. That said, I know nothing about the promotion in question and how they advertise themselves, or if an attendee should've had a reasonable expectation that this wasn't going to be a kid-friendly show. The e-mail writer definitely seems like the type of person who's just generally ignorant and oblivious. To be fair, too, the tone/content of the letter makes me think they could have had a warning on the poster that said "Contains homosexual and dick touching content (possibly with vagina!)" and said writer still would have attended then complained. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I would rather watch Joey Ryan's shtick than serious wrestler Joey Ryan without a second thought. He's never been an amazing pure wrestler, so he found something that's both easy on the body and a niche that gets him some notoriety while separating him from the pack he couldn't compete with in traditional ways to begin with. Not my favourite thing but I ain't going to slander the man for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 EVA's comment leads to something else I've been thinking of. Does anybody else just not enjoy particular styles of matches that you used to? I used to be a mark for ladder matches, and now I find they do nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I know watching classic AJPW head dropping is less appealing, given the toll it took on folks. Similar to no longer enjoying football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I used to love Big Japan when I was in high school because it was nasty as fuck and Jun Kasai is a crazy man. Now I can't even watch someone get hit oon the head with a chair, much less bodyslammed onto barbwire boards or slung into ropes that are on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Joey's mustache and the lollypop are way more offensive to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I used to love garbage style wrestling and the AJPW kings road or strong style shit, but now the former bores me and makes me think of a bunch of dudes stinking of B.O. going to watch that shit and I don't have much of a stomach for the latter. I love current NJPW, but even that makes me a little squeamish. I recently re-watched Okada vs Shibata and I just had this overwhelming sense of dread leading up not to the headbutt spot, but him stumbling around near the end and at the end of that match. Hell, even some WWE stuff bothers me when Sami would basically drop KO right on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Weirdly enough though, I still love a good brawl. Something that feels like a fucking fight. You need to be able to feel the hatred coming off of each dude and you need to feel that each guy wants to destroy the other. You could even involve weapons. Omega vs Jericho is a recent example of that. Like, if Reigns and Cena started off their match by going to the center of the ring and then going all Frye/Takayama on each other then I would have enjoyed that match way more than I did. Wrestling needs more of I want to fuck this guy up because he's a dick and a piece of shit. I also didn't like comedy wrestling before and have more of a taste for it now. I think that's because of my growing distaste for watching guys get dropped on their heads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfaloaf Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Unless someone's already mentioned it Enzo's gone. Something dodgy from the rape accusation yesterday, cos they made up their minds damn quick to get rid rather than suspend initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Halfaloaf said: Unless someone's already mentioned it Enzo's gone. Something dodgy from the rape accusation yesterday, cos they made up their minds damn quick to get rid rather than suspend initially. There's a thread for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I can't believe there has been a 2-3 page discussion about Joey Ryan's dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 To be fair, it's a talented dick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, MonteCarl said: I can't believe there has been a 2-3 page discussion about Joey Ryan's dick There's a 6 page thread on Enzo's 3 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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