EVA Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Those are two very different parts of the body. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Ace said: Nope. It's really that you're assigning a sexual act to something that isn't one. It's okay if Rikishi uses his ass, but not if Joey uses his dick. Well one I think the stink face is gross and unnecessary and 27 minutes ago, EVA said: Those are two very different parts of the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It seems like they wanted to do everything short of putting a warning label on the poster. There's a broader conversation to be had about some independent promotions and acts attracting/cultivating a fan base of basically one demographic, who in turn can create an atmosphere that makes shows and fan spaces more than a little uncomfortable for anyone who isn't in that relatively homogeneous group. That covers everything from some pretty vile, abusive behavior, to just a general lack of kid-friendliness. But I mean, the letter obviously isn't constructive in that regard. (Which is to say, it's dumb as hell, and even more bigoted.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Victator said: Putting the homophobic business aside, they need to put parental warnings on shows with Ryan doing the dick spot. I don't think it's unreasonable complaint, unless the company actually did put up warnings. I think this is a perfectly reasonable thought. The letter was super homophobic and dumb but the Ryan stuff is a little out there. That said, the email writers idea that they were a big fan of wrestling in the 60s so would presume they could take children without checking into it is pretty silly. It would be like enjoying The Haunting of Hill House back in the day and presuming that you could take children to see Saw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, caley said: I think this is a perfectly reasonable thought. The letter was super homophobic and dumb but the Ryan stuff is a little out there. That said, the email writers idea that they were a big fan of wrestling in the 60s so would presume they could take children without checking into it is pretty silly. It would be like enjoying The Haunting of Hill House back in the day and presuming that you could take children to see Saw. This is true, I mean surely they saw news stories about the 90's wrestling boom. It seemed like those were a weekly deal in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Joey Ryan’s dick stuff has literally been shown on national television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yeah, on Tosh.0. But that’s not exactly the cleanest show anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Point One: The complaints are homophobic and sad. Point Two: Booking Joey Ryan in 2018 because you think that your audience thinks the dick spot is still funny is sad. Point Three: Finding the Joey Ryan dick spot to be funny in 2018 is just sad. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, OSJ said: Point One: The complaints are homophobic and sad. Point Two: Booking Joey Ryan in 2018 because you think that your audience thinks the dick spot is still funny is sad. Point Three: Finding the Joey Ryan dick spot to be funny in 2018 is just sad. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Having been at and seeing sold-out shows where he's done the spots within the last couple months, it's still over and the crowd digs it. Hating on a good dude for being successful is incredibly sad. Also, the dick spot also appeared on ESPN and The Soup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, OSJ said: Point One: The complaints are homophobic and sad. Point Two: Booking Joey Ryan in 2018 because you think that your audience thinks the dick spot is still funny is sad. Point Three: Finding the Joey Ryan dick spot to be funny in 2018 is just sad. The local promotion here in Vancouver just sold out the Commodore Ballroom (I'm bad at this, but my guess would be ~900 people, while the normal shows are about 150-300 in attendance) with only Joey Ryan and the lesser known (but way awesome) Sammy Guevara as the out of towner names brought in. And while I'm not that high on Ryan outside of a few things, particularly his handcuff spot and the resulting Matanza murder in Aztec Warfare, his match by far had the best crowd reaction and psychology. They did this whole thing where officials from the City of Vancouver came out with bylaws saying Ryan's pornographic exhibition was illegal, leading Ryan to build tension around the dick flip that eventually played into the ending of the match. They had the crowd in the palm of their hands (and his wiener), then the people went banana when he finally hit the dick flip post-match. I was super impressed. While I'm on the subject, El Phantasmo returned from his England trip to win the ECCW title in the opener as a way of spreading the company's name when he returns to the British Isles and putting all the prestige on the Canadian title. Pretty smart move and the logical conclusion would be a unification bout when he returns. El P had a super fun match with Pete Dunne in Rev Pro earlier this month and I look forward to seeing more of his stuff there. In other news, apparently Guevara has a banged up shoulder so his match went criminally short unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I find it funny that the angry fan even knew what a bathhouse was.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Motherfuckers here acting like there weren't kids aged in the single digits accounting for at least 15% of the crowd in the ECW Arena in the mid-90's and that the much vanuted Attitude Era didn't exist, so now we're pearl clutching over Joey Ryan's dick. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 John Cena is in talks to star in Paramount’s “Duke Nukem” movie, a big-screen version of the long-running video game franchise. The project is set up at Paramount-based Platinum Dunes, which is operated by Michael Bay, Andrew Form, and Brad Fuller. No director or writer is attached yet. Duke Nukem first appeared in the 1991 eponymous video game, developed by Apogee Software, as a muscular cigar-chomping man who always wears Ray-Bans and sports a flat-top haircut as he fights aliens to save planet Earth by using enormous physical strength and his expertise in firearms. He’s appeared in 19 video games as the title character, most recently in “Duke Nukem 3D: World Tour.” Platinum Dunes franchises include “The Purge,” “Ouija,” and “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.” It’s a producer on John Krasinski’s horror movie “A Quiet Place,” opening April 6. Cena made his name as a WWE star before starting another career as a movie actor more than a decade ago with “The Marine” in 2006. His credits include “12 Rounds,” “Legendary,” “The Reunion,” “Trainwreck,” “Sisters,” “Daddy’s Home,” “Daddy’s Home 2,” and “The Wall,” along with voicing the lead character in the animated comedy “Ferdinand.” Cena is starring with Hailee Steinfeld in Paramount’s upcoming Transformers prequel “Bumblebee: The Movie,” with Bay producing. He is repped by ICM Partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Raziel403 said: Motherfuckers here acting like there weren't kids aged in the single digits accounting for at least 15% of the crowd in the ECW Arena in the mid-90's and that the much vanuted Attitude Era didn't exist, so now we're pearl clutching over Joey Ryan's dick. Clutching Joey Ryan’s dick could very well lead to pearls of a different kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, odessasteps said: Clutching Joey Ryan’s dick could very well lead to pearls of a different kind. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Ace said: Joey Ryan’s dick stuff has literally been shown on national television. So was "My Mother, the Car", doesn't mean it was funny after the first episode. Ace: If you're going to set the bar at "Was on national television" = "good", I'll just tap out now, as I haven't been any good at the limbo in thirty years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Ace said: Having been at and seeing sold-out shows where he's done the spots within the last couple months, it's still over and the crowd digs it. Hating on a good dude for being successful is incredibly sad. Also, the dick spot also appeared on ESPN and The Soup. 1. "If 50,000 people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" - Voltaire 2. I don't hate on Joey Ryan, I think he's an entertaining and talented guy. I think the dick spot hit its expiration date months ago and he's in danger of turning into a parody of himself if he keeps it up. 3. You're really not helping your case if you're trying to bolster it by citing ESPN and the fucking Soup as some sort of barometers of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 His dick jokes make him six figures as an indy guy. Fuck quality, it works. The new wrestling fan runs memes into the ground for years. Worse than any of us ever did. This shit is evergreen with those people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I am pretty sure it's been established in multiple threads, that popularity =/= quality, but hey, the guy gets a shit ton of bookings off it so more power to him, I respect the hustle. Gotta have comedy and considering the shit that's out there and has been there, the YouPorn Plex is pretty fucking tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Oyaji said: The local promotion here in Vancouver just sold out the Commodore Ballroom (I'm bad at this, but my guess would be ~900 people, while the normal shows are about 150-300 in attendance) with only Joey Ryan and the lesser known (but way awesome) Sammy Guevara as the out of towner names brought in. And while I'm not that high on Ryan outside of a few things, particularly his handcuff spot and the resulting Matanza murder in Aztec Warfare, his match by far had the best crowd reaction and psychology. They did this whole thing where officials from the City of Vancouver came out with bylaws saying Ryan's pornographic exhibition was illegal, leading Ryan to build tension around the dick flip that eventually played into the ending of the match. They had the crowd in the palm of their hands (and his wiener), then the people went banana when he finally hit the dick flip post-match. I was super impressed. While I'm on the subject, El Phantasmo returned from his England trip to win the ECCW title in the opener as a way of spreading the company's name when he returns to the British Isles and putting all the prestige on the Canadian title. Pretty smart move and the logical conclusion would be a unification bout when he returns. El P had a super fun match with Pete Dunne in Rev Pro earlier this month and I look forward to seeing more of his stuff there. In other news, apparently Guevara has a banged up shoulder so his match went criminally short unfortunately. Leaving aside the facts that you guys in Canada eat poutine, drink High Test, and have cursed the IWC with the likes of SKeith, I still cut a lot of slack because as an ECCW fan, I go all the way back to Skag Rollins rookie year. Maybe I'm a cranky old bastard, but I don't find repetitive humor to be all that funny in most cases. It's like watching Beavis and Butthead, the first time a particular gag is used it can be hysterical, laugh at the same thing the fourth or fifth time it's being done means either (a.) you're rather stupid and easily amused and it's a shame that you're spending money on wrestling tickets when you'd be just as entertained by a piece of string or playing with a paper bag. (b.) you're stoned to oblivion and easily amused. Here, have I shown you the neat stuff that you can do with a piece of string... As you may well infer, I'm no great fan of catchphrases either for the most part. So let me state it again for the record, I have no problem conceptually with Joey Ryan doing the dick spot. I am not Jim Cornette. I don't care about what kids are going to see at a wrestling card. It's pro wrestling!!! I expect it to be low-brow and filled with inappropriate humor. I'm a child of the 1960s and 1970s, we had Abby carving people up (another import from Canada, now that I think about it), and the Sheik throwing fireballs and carving people up with a fork. Hell, I even had tapes of a few episodes of Incredibly Strange Wrestling, which I thought was funny as hell until guess what? They became repetitive!!!! The first time you have Cletus the Fetus "strangled" by the Abortionist with a coat-hanger, that shit is so wrong it's funny as hell. The first time you see it. The second time, not so much. The third time, I'm thinking "Let's move the fuck on, this is just stupid." Same with the valet pissing on her charge's head to revive him in a No-DQ match. Likewise the "AIDS-Infected Needles" match (which I shouldn't have to explain). All that shit had me ROFLOL... The first time... Joey Ryan is dangerously close to becoming just "the dick guy" and I don't want that to happen and you shouldn't either. Ryan is far more talented then that and while he's coming up on forty, he realistically has another decade ahead of him, and I'd like to see that spent putting on good matches, not doing everything to build up to a humor spot that I no longer find funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I believe the point was that Ryan's spot being on ESPN and the Soup shows it's pretty well-known, not that it shows it's quality or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Wait, what's wrong with poutine?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, CreativeControl said: Wait, what's wrong with poutine?! I think it's vile. Of course this is coming from a guy that has been known to eat blood sausage, jellyfish, and durian; so YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Apparently Liger's a fan of durian, too. So you're in decent company. P.S. You entirely missed my point, John. I meant the fact that it was on national television during the day means that it wasn't something in need of a friggin' pre-show notice to warn people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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