elizium Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I really dig his feud with Flair, heated, serious Jimmy was great to see. Bonus in that it lead to Flair making out with a mannequin on TV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/17/2017 at 11:29 AM, J.T. said: That bit was great, but Arn Anderson is still my favorite dude when it comes to being the worker selling the shock of a mystery partner announcement. NO~! IT CAN'T BE~!!! NOT STEAMBOAT~!!! "HE'S ONLY A MAN!" Awesome. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Jimmy Garvin's face turn to help Ronnie vs the Midnight Express was also pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I forgot. Who's the Miz? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I forgot WWE actually wasted a Wrestlemania main event on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Kamala is apparently on life support 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Ryan said: I forgot. Who's the Miz? I don't know, but I do know who's the Wiz. ...and the deleted scene 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibata Is My Homie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 20 hours ago, Edwin said: What’s the general opinion on Jimmy Garvin? I always thought he sucked, but the majority of my opinion on him is based on his run as a WCW Freebird with Hayes which was awful. I am currently watching Starrcade 86 and saw his match with Brad Armstrong and it was awful imo. He did get a ton of heat after the time limit expired, so I’ll give him that. Also Héctor Guerrero and Baron von Raschke vs. Shaska Whatley and the Barbarian? Those are some bizarre pairings. His run in Dallas was his best run with Florida a close second. By the time he got to Crockett, he really lost something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 20 hours ago, Edwin said: What’s the general opinion on Jimmy Garvin? I always thought he sucked, but the majority of my opinion on him is based on his run as a WCW Freebird with Hayes which was awful. The problem with Garvin is one of perception as you point out. Just as with Pedro Morales, the lasting impression that most fans have is of an over-the-hill, disinterested Garvin as a Freebird. I always thought he was mis-cast as a heel, he did everything correctly, but just seemed to be too naturally amiable to be believed as a vicious heel. Cast as a face against heel Flair or when paired with Ronnie Garvin, he was excellent. So what you have is a guy that started relatively late, was misused a goodly portion of his career, and got the most of his national exposure when he was winding it down. There's a lot of great stuff out there and it's well-worth your time to look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 hours ago, Casey said: Kamala is apparently on life support Damn that sucks, he always deserved more from the biz and seemed like such a nice bloke when he was doing the podcast rounds a while back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Per Meltzer - the Brock Lesnar/Finn Balor Royal Rumble match is off because Vince doesn't think Balor is over enough. But I thought getting smashed by Kane was a good thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Per Meltzer - the Brock Lesnar/Finn Balor Royal Rumble match is off because Vince doesn't think Balor is over enough. But I thought getting smashed by Kane was a good thing! Vince would have to genuinely be senile to say that the day after Balor and Nak got a huge reaction for a basic wrestling stand off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Per Meltzer - the Brock Lesnar/Finn Balor Royal Rumble match is off because Vince doesn't think Balor is over enough. But I thought getting smashed by Kane was a good thing! First I've heard about this. I'd say to Vince, Balor is over enough because he was stuck in the never ending feud with Bray Wyatt. I was watching Finn Balor the other day and I said to my Dad, be interesting to see how he and Brock work the size/weight difference . If the match is back on, Finn be the lightest person Brock's wrestled since returning in 2012, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Per Meltzer - the Brock Lesnar/Finn Balor Royal Rumble match is off because Vince doesn't think Balor is over enough. But I thought getting smashed by Kane was a good thing! There aren't a ton of other good choices. Kane? Angle? Miz? Enzo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Vince gets more erratic by the week and nobody has the balls to tell him his booking is hot garbage. At this rate, he'll be running the company from an assisted living facility and nobody will tell him they're unable to "steal that Hogan kid from Verne." 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I honestly think there’s a non zero chance they run something like Angle vs Shane vs Hunter vs Brock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Maybe they're gonna run Joe back? We were all told Brock liked working with him, right? And he did just choke Finn out. This is still stupid, if true. Even if you don't think Finn's over enough--I'd disagree--you can, y'know, try to do something about it? With booking? And stuff? That's how this is supposed to work. Go politic for your boy, Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'm not surprised Vince cancelled the match. I'm surprised Balor vs Brock ever made it past the pitch stage. Maybe Vince had never seen Balor until now? "He's not over enough for Brock" is obviously code for GOD DAMMIT PAL MY DICK DOESN'T EVEN STIR A LITTLE UNLESS THE GUY IS OVER 6'2" 245 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Balor getting beat by Brock doesn't really do him any good, anyway. He'd just get F5'd back to the midcard the way guys like Dean and Seth did. And yeah, I know Brock beat AJ but Styles is basically bullet proof in booking. The bigger issue is why Balor is even on Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Matt D said: I honestly think there’s a non zero chance they run something like Angle vs Shane vs Hunter vs Brock. Shane and Angle would die. There is no way Shane takes the F5 properly. He'd likely land spine first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Not sure were to post this, but I just finished watching Starrcade '86 last night... The first 7-8 matches were pretty forgettable. I believe I mentioned this before; I don't know the background, but Héctor Guerrero and Baron von Raschke vs. Shaska Whatley and the Barbarian? It just seems like someone came across these 4 guys in the locker room and told them to gear up and do whatever they wanted for 10 minutes. Big Bubba vs. Ronnie Garvin, Tully Blanchard vs. Dusty Rhodes, the Rock 'n' Roll Express vs. the Minnesota Wrecking Crew and Ric Flair vs. Nikita Koloff were pretty good. The only knock I have on Bubba vs. Garvin was that first shot with the racket from Cornette which looked exceedingly weak. JJ putting the protective head gear and then whipping on vaseline on Tully to avoid him bleeding easily and Hebner getting in his face for it was fantastic. That blade job by Ricky Morton was by far the best one on the entire show. Arn's drunken punches are fantastic too. Flair vs. Nikita was far from a classic world title match, but it was still quite entertaining despite the flat finish. Had high hopes for the scaffold match, but that was underwhelming and understandably so with such a limited stipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Technico Support said: Vince gets more erratic by the week and nobody has the balls to tell him his booking is hot garbage. At this rate, he'll be running the company from an assisted living facility and nobody will tell him they're unable to "steal that Hogan kid from Verne." It is mostly Steph and HHH which explains why Vince continually put others over and got beat up during the Attitude Era and Steph and HHH put nobody over in this era and never get the short end of the stick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Edwin said: Not sure were to post this, but I just finished watching Starrcade '86 last night... The first 7-8 matches were pretty forgettable. I believe I mentioned this before; I don't know the background, but Héctor Guerrero and Baron von Raschke vs. Shaska Whatley and the Barbarian? It just seems like someone came across these 4 guys in the locker room and told them to gear up and do whatever they wanted for 10 minutes. The only knock I have on Bubba vs. Garvin was that first shot with the racket from Cornette which looked exceedingly weak. Baron had been in the awful Paul Jones' Army stable with Whatley and Barbarian, and had been turned against on a random TV show. Edit: Baron's face turn: Cornette said something on a random podcast that he slipped/wiped-out on a spilled drink as he was trying to do the racket shot, so it looks bad and also hurt his knee, which he then proceeded to destroy later on when falling off the scaffold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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