nofuture Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Thanks @nofuture, I can’t seem to get links to embed on mobile for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Dave Meltzer had sex? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 14 hours ago, lurkerbelow said: There have been rumors and conspiracy theories about pedophile rings existing in Hollywood for many years now, and it's not a secret that young male actors have to get on the casting couch, probably as much as young actresses do. A couple years back, on one of my numerous comedian podcast shows I listen to, an older gay gentleman guest was on and basically joked about the open secret among the gay community: they had parties that were basically cattle calls for young Hollywood male hopefuls, the executives and higher ups who swung that way attended and had their pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Virgin Princess Angel was in ECW in '93, which would be the year she turned 18. So maybe she was 17 on some of those shows, depending on when her Birthday is. But if your only corroborating evidence is a Paul E promo (from early 94 I think) where he talks about how she (a rival manager in a match he was building up) is a Wrestling groupie... not saying it didn't happen. But if she's saying she was 12 or 15, ECW didn't even exist in '87 or '90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkerbelow Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I was wondering why Black Twitter (especially the females) was pissed at Lena Dunham (again). Now, it makes sense: https://www.avclub.com/lena-dunham-defends-girls-writer-accused-of-sexual-assa-1820565531 When it came to either whiteness or being a female, she chose whiteness in this case. Or maybe she, you know, just thinks the guy is innocent. Or doesn't want to accept that he would do such a thing, because of how nice he seemed to her when she worked with him. Please don't racebait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Confessed molester Lena Dunham is a bad person? ¡Qué Sorpresa! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 5 hours ago, lurkerbelow said: Or maybe she, you know, just thinks the guy is innocent. Or maybe she is a proven white supremacist by previous actions and you should shut the hell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkerbelow Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Or maybe she is a proven white supremacist by previous actions and you should shut the hell up. I am not aware of any actions she may have made to show that she's a white supremacist; the only things I have ever read about her give me the impression that she is very left wing and politically correct; perhaps you are correct that she is, but I've never seen her do anything to make me think she is a white supremacist. However, that being said, given the fact that your race even has an ethnic slur named after its tendency to blindly defend other members of the race when they are accused of wrongdoing (that slur being "Dindus", in other words "he Dindu Nuffin"), and thus you know the effects of individuals making bigoted comments about African Americans siding with their ethnic kinsmen based upon racial purposes, I would think that you would be the last human being to have room to criticize Lena or any other white woman for "choosing whiteness" over being a female or any other label or categorization - if she even did do that, which I'm not entirely convinced that she did. Please don't bring race into an issue of Dunham wanting to defend her friend, and saying her doing so is because of "choosing whiteness" - it smacks of bigotry and race-baiting, and you should be above that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 Even leaving race out of it (and she has a lot to answer for there, re: her show, Drake, Odell Beckham Jr, dumb tweets about Asians, etc), Dunham's presence in this conversation is still bound to do too much to muddy the waters. Her personal history is catnip for those looking to discredit the wave victims coming forward. I'd say she needs to stay out of it, but her sense of self-importance certainly won't allow that. I loved her show (I know, I know, even beyond my poor taste), but she is incredibly reckless with the things she puts out there and how she does so. She's damn near impossible to defend. She's like a performance artist who exists to play up all the worst stereotypes about the white liberals of her generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, lurkerbelow said: I am not aware of any actions she may have made to show that she's a white supremacist; the only things I have ever read about her give me the impression that she is very left wing and politically correct; perhaps you are correct that she is, but I've never seen her do anything to make me think she is a white supremacist. However, that being said, given the fact that your race even has an ethnic slur named after its tendency to blindly defend other members of the race when they are accused of wrongdoing (that slur being "Dindus", in other words "he Dindu Nuffin"), and thus you know the effects of individuals making bigoted comments about African Americans siding with their ethnic kinsmen based upon racial purposes, I would think that you would be the last human being to have room to criticize Lena or any other white woman for "choosing whiteness" over being a female or any other label or categorization - if she even did do that, which I'm not entirely convinced that she did. Please don't bring race into an issue of Dunham wanting to defend her friend, and saying her doing so is because of "choosing whiteness" - it smacks of bigotry and race-baiting, and you should be above that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Not his fault he doesn't know Elsa very well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 hhahahahahahahahaha take the weekend off folks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, lurkerbelow said: I am not aware of any actions she may have made to show that she's a white supremacist; the only things I have ever read about her give me the impression that she is very left wing and politically correct; perhaps you are correct that she is Yeah, no we've passed the point of whether or not Lena Dunham is one. The proof is there. Anytime I can't or won't defend you (white, black, Asian, Native American, etc.) against the slew of "this is why black men are toxic this week" websites like TheRoot, TheGrio, MadameNoire, Refinery29, or any similar website, you know you fucked up or you have a tremendous history of being a racist piece of shit. 22 minutes ago, lurkerbelow said: However, that being said, given the fact that your race even has an ethnic slur named after its tendency to blindly defend other members of the race when they are accused of wrongdoing (that slur being "Dindus", in other words "he Dindu Nuffin"), and thus you know the effects of individuals making bigoted comments about African Americans siding with their ethnic kinsmen based upon racial purposes, How did you enjoy your sleep, D.W. Griffith? A lot of things have changed in our world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Here's your last shot. It's Thanksgiving week. If someone in this thread is behaving DUMB, do not engage them with more DUMB. Shoot me a message and I'll deal with it. Add Charlie Rose and John Lasseter to the list of creepbags. The fact that the women of Pixar created a defensive maneuver called THE LASSETER is the saddest shit ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Also during our break, Tambor quit Transparent in what I'm sure he'd like us to think is a principled stand against his accusers. Not a great look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 He's sorry that dry humping a woman was seen as aggressive. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Also during our break, Tambor quit Transparent in what I'm sure he'd like us to think is a principled stand against his accusers. Not a great look. Also in that time, in Lena Dunham fashion, Lena Dunham walked back saying something that was idiotic, racist, and/or incredibly bizarre and "took back" her joint (?) statement in support of the "Girls" writer/producer who is being accused of sexual assault. Also this: http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/writer-zinzi-clemmons-leaves-lenny-letter-citing-dunhams-known-racism.html I'm confused by the divest line since I don't know how much the Shea Butter feminists have invested in Lena Dunham of all people given that liberal white people barely give a shit about her now. Zinzi is feeling herself a bit since she has a book out and making the rounds to promote it (in her opinion, she "took down" a "major" celebrity), but I'm all for anyone putting Lena Dunham on front street. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Most women I know never gave a shit about her, some like the show though. This seems common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, Ryan said: Most women I know never gave a shit about her, some like the show though. This seems common. It's almost like some people can separate the person ... from ... from the art ... the art, there. ... I got nuthin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 If you don't go into the random music thread, you can read what Vice posted about known asshole Morrissey defending Spacey and Weinstein and being a racist again there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I don't know if Oliver Stone has been brought up, but it seems like he tried the "We got to wait until we know more...." in regards to Harvey Weinstein over a month ago. Then, he immediately walked that back and nixed his involvement in a Guantanamo TV series that the TWC was co-producing. Well.... https://pagesix.com/2017/10/13/patricia-arquette-former-playmate-accuse-oliver-stone-of-harassment/ More recently http://www.nme.com/news/film/oliver-stone-melissa-gilbert-sexual-harassment-allegation-response-2162131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said: If you don't go into the random music thread, you can read what Vice posted about known asshole Morrissey defending Spacey and Weinstein and being a racist again there. Sadly, Morrissey is likely trying to grab the limelight by saying stupid shit. Something he's done for decades, in 2017, the sad fuck is about as relative as Soupy Sales and the Edsel. What's his name with the 250 awful jokes can have this one for free: Q: Hey, what's the one thing better about Charley Manson than Morrissey? A: Manson is quiet now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The Charlie Rose thing is not a surprise. Back in the 90's, Howard Stern would routinely crucify Rose for being a huge player and constantly saying he had more women than he knew what to do with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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