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1 minute ago, Craig H said:

Fedor hasn't been good in YEARS and this was 100% what I thought was going to happen. Bellator is a joke.

 

On 12/17/2018 at 11:37 AM, Elsalvajeloco said:

I wouldn't compare him to Bader. Bader went through a stage coming off TUF where he was basically a giant upgraded version of Mark Kerr, Kevin Randleman, and Mark Coleman. He slept poor Tom Lawlor on that one episode where you could tell there was potential, but he also couldn't hurt Anderson Silva punching in the face like 30 times. Some years after TUF, he would run headlong into punches from Lyoto. Once he got with the father of Jose and David Benavidez (Jose Sr.), he seemed more confident in his own skin. He got folded up by Rumble but anyone not named DC got folded up by Rumble when he came back. I don't think he loses to Tito or Machida at this stage of his career. If he fought Glover again, he gets him out of there in under two rounds. Ryan Bader is basically what Brock Lesnar would be if he didn't seem so awkward as a striker being a giant, muscular human being. Right now, besides probably Dominick Reyes, I think Bader thrashes everyone not named Jones, Gustafsson, or Cormier at LHW. I love Anthony Smith and he's super entertaining, but he would get put through the mat against Ryan Bader. Same with Oezdemir and everyone around that level. If he stayed at heavyweight, he would be a top 10 easily and maybe flirt with top 5/6. Maybe Fedor catches him, but I expect him to utterly massacre Fedor or at least bust him up bad on the ground.  I don't think that's the case pre Power MMA w/ Jair Lourenco who was largely responsible for Nova Uniao being red hot for years. Whatever it is, he clicks with Bader which for the love of all things doesn't make sense why Gadelha has went everywhere in the Southwest U.S. but not there.

Not saying I told y'all but I told y'all.

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I'm not against the idea of Bader beating no-hips Gustafsson.

Fedor gets the easiest possble draw, Bader gets the hardest and never even gets punched. Bader's on a 12-1 streak with the 1 being an unfortunate Rumbling. Well, alright then. Like to see that rematch, realize I won't.

Aaron Pico maybe just isn't that dude. Being a fighter isn't just looking like a fighter.

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Guy has all the tools to be a great fighter though. Just needs to figure out how to use them and maybe rely a little bit more on his world class wrestling and less pretending MMA is a youtube compilation video. It's not as if he doesn't have the footwork to dance in and out of range. He does. He just chooses to get inside, plant his feet and torque his whole body into shots leaving himself wide open. He's now figured out (i bloody hope anyway) that it doesn't work against cans or talented fighters one in the same. I appreciate that he's trying to win the hearts of MMA fans with a dramatic, decisive style but it's not 1998 anymore.

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1 hour ago, John E. Dynamite said:

I'm not against the idea of Bader beating no-hips Gustafsson.

I think Alex is still just a smidge better than Bader. Jon just makes pretty good fighters look average. I think that's a good fight though and one we should have saw in the interim while Jon was on...um...mandatory vacation between 214 and 232.

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Fedor gets the easiest possble draw, Bader gets the hardest and never even gets punched. Bader's on a 12-1 streak with the 1 being an unfortunate Rumbling. Well, alright then. Like to see that rematch, realize I won't.

Rumble, besides now looking like Tookie Williams and Craig Munson back in the day, is just a bad matchup for Bader. He can stop takedowns and can punch like a Mack truck. I think unless Rumble just forgot how to fight, that fight goes exactly the same way it did in this time three years ago.

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Aaron Pico maybe just isn't that dude. Being a fighter isn't just looking like a fighter.

He has a ton of offensive talent. However, what would have made him an unstoppable and scintillating prospect five or six years ago isn't enough to completely overshadow his lack of defensive awareness. By the way he was clinching Corrales, he thinks he is in a boxing match. Just like King Mo when he was training with Jeff Mayweather and talking about Cuban style, I think Pico is believing too much of his own hype training with Roach. Roach has done a great job with his hands, but you still need to approach it as an MMA fight and not an eight rounder against a tomato can on Friday Nights Fights on ESPN2 in 2001. You will get your fucking block knocked off, dude. 

Also, Bellator's matchmaking is still atrocious in certain aspects. Leandro Higo is just a guy and a bantamweight at that. That's as high as he should have been fighting. It should be faded, smaller fighters like a Joe Warren or straight up cab drivers and short order cooks like his previous opponents before Higo and Corrales. Why are you testing the waters this early in his career? It's absolutely moronic.

I was listening to the latest WOR with Dave and Garrett Gonzales this afternoon. I think it was telling that Dave said Coker is good at making stars (I'll grant him Rousey but the platform UFC had was much better) and then immediately corrected himself by saying he WAS good at making stars. How the fuck do you botch Aaron Pico? James Gallagher...I get because they kinda fell into him and you could see that easily taking a turn for the worst because ripping off Conor only works if you have the talent. Conor was already at a certain level BEFORE he signed with the UFC. Pico is a guy who should be moved with the grace of how Andre Ward was moved after the 2004 Olympics or Deontay Wilder after the 2008 Olympics: slow as hell but with purpose. Nothing about Rich Chou's matchmaking says that after tonight.

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I'm jinxing this sport I think. I've never been anything more than barely a casual fan of MMA, but I signed up for free trials of ESPN+ and DAZN to watch these shows and the two main events combined lasted less time than it takes to tie your shoes.

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11 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

I'm jinxing this sport I think. I've never been anything more than barely a casual fan of MMA, but I signed up for free trials of ESPN+ and DAZN to watch these shows and the two main events combined lasted less time than it takes to tie your shoes.

I think you would have jinxed if this one went longer than two rounds. 

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1 minute ago, Oyaji said:

Indeed they are. But, like, they need to rehab him now not throw him to the wolves. But this wolf doesn't even have name recognition so there is literally no upside to this.

This also a fighter who is going to train like its a fight and won't spend the weeks leading up to it at In-N-Out.

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15 minutes ago, Setsuna said:

Tenshin's already scheduled for a March 10th show which is the first round of a kickboxing tournament.

 

That would not prevent him from getting pummeled in Yokohama.

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31 minutes ago, Setsuna said:

No. No, it wouldn't.

Is the boxer at least the same weight class as Tenshin? I guess I should just read the link you posted but man, that would really be Rizin doubling-down on their original terrible idea.

He is the same height as Tenshin but he is a junior lightweight (130) that barely made weight on Friday and was 141 and 3/4 tonight in the ring. However, he is a puncher and that's not good for Tenshin.

12 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

Anything I should be particularly interested on the two Bellator shows on DAZN next weekend? I'm still in my thirty day trial, so I may very well watch regardless.

You can skip the first show. It's basically one fight and that's the main event between Mitrione and Kharitonov. I guess that's alright. Logan Storley is a solid prospect and Mr. Paige VanZant is fighting. They have Dudu Dantas on the card fighting some dude. It's nothing I would go out of the way to see.

To be honest, the Saturday show isn't much better but the main event is fairly intriguing. I have no idea why they put a fight between their top English fighters they've been building up for years in an Indian casino in Connecticut. That's so Bellator. Anyway, I guess the return of Vitaly Minakov to Bellator is interesting. Big Country vs. CroCop is not something I'm excited about in 2019. Erick Silva always has entertaining scraps. He will either win in entertaining fashion or lose in entertaining fashion. At the very least, there is no real middle ground w/ him.

 

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3 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

Jesus Christ, CroCop still fights?

I remember watching grainy internet video of him kicking guys heads in like when I was college.

Yes but usually in Japan where can take as many PEDs as he wants. This is his first fight back in the US since 2011 which was against Roy Nelson on Penn vs. Diaz. Ironically, that's the last time Nick Diaz won a fight. 

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1 minute ago, Brian Fowler said:

That Bellator roster would be amazing with a time machine or the fountain of youth

The lack of additional testing (i.e. outside the commission like VADA or USADA) helps. However, not so much lately.

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