J.T. Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Vince is fucking awesome and stupid. There is no way old dudes should be taking unprotected Shibata headbutts, but at least he showed that he doesn't send guys to do the things that he's not willing to do himself if the angle calls for it. Hallmark will now need to create a hybrid Congratulations On Your New Achievement and Get Well Soon greeting card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Regarding the headbutt and the comparisons to Shibata, yes, it was shocking, but don't forget, Shibata was also very dehydrated at the point he threw that stiff headbutt. His dehydration contributed to the brain damage he suffered. Although I suppose you could argue that all of the Monster drinks that Vince pounds aren't exactly hydrating him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Ryan said: You think Vince has any clue who the fuck Shibata or New Japan are? He probably came up with the damn idea. I would think he knows something about the concussion law suits against WWE, and the dangers of head injuries in the year 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm wondering if Vince hasn't had that conversation with Owens (up to the announcement of a match) with other wrestlers in real life. Guessing Vince's idea of Human Resources is a bit unusual. Really wasn't feeling the segment up until the headbutt. Once again, Vince goes full-on cray-cray to get an angle over. If he was five years younger, he'd probably have taken the pop-up power bomb. I'm interested in the match now, so i guess the segment got the job done. Do feel like they rushed through the Shane attack-lawsuit-Vince portion of the angle. That should have had a few weeks to play out. Thought it was a kinda blah show overall. AJ-Tye wasn't much of anything. The USOs street fight delivered, but that was the only match I liked.Wonder if Jey is ok. Think I saw his soul leave his body after that spill to the outside. If they're going to have Carmella cash-in successfully, I'd do something different. It kinda seems like they're going towards Natayla-Carmella title match. Run that, have Natayla retain, then have Ellsworth interfere after the match. Natayla takes a big bump, Ellworth gets Carmella to her feet, and she cashes in the briefcase and pins Natayla before she can recover. Have they ever done that? I kinda wonder why someone (prob a heel) doesn't wrangle themselves a title match, then use the briefcase as a sort of mulligan if they lose the match but see an opportunity to get the upper hand in a restart. Really, they should use the briefcase sparingly and have most cash-ins be unsuccessful. That would have kept the concept as a bigger deal. But that''s not the route they've gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Infinit said: Dolph Ziggler as Iizuka?? Book it! You know he'd fuck that up too. Damn... Owens put the nut in (to quote the Scottish). In storyline, Pearce should get the "YOU'RE FIRED" for not saving Vince from the splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I am amused at the rumblings going around that Vince had to be talked about of taking the Pop-Up Powerbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Vince settling for a shoot headbutt and a 300 lb. man splashing him off the top rope sounds about right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, RIPPA said: I am amused at the rumblings going around that Vince had to be talked about of taking the Pop-Up Powerbomb Package piledriver! Go big or go home, brah! I can only imagine what Owens' facial expressions would have been like after splatting the old man with a power bomb. His "I'm shoot-fired" faces were hilarious. As someone remarked on page 1, he did a great job cycling between psycho wanting to injure an old man and "On no. I injured an old man who is my boss." It's a good thing they never signed Super Dragon. I can imagine Vince being crazy enough to take a psycho driver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: Package piledriver! Go big or go home, brah! I can only imagine what Owens' facial expressions would have been like after splatting the old man with a power bomb. His "I'm shoot-fired" faces were hilarious. As someone remarked on page 1, he did a great job cycling between psycho wanting to injure an old man and "On no. I injured an old man who is my boss." It's a good thing they never signed Super Dragon. I can imagine Vince being crazy enough to take a psycho driver. I could absolutely see Vince taking a psycho driver through a table crica 2006. I'm also going to be sad we were never able to get Vince vs. Necro Butcher in some kind of gimmick match. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, JCM said: I would think he knows something about the concussion law suits against WWE, and the dangers of head injuries in the year 2017. You vastly overestimate how much Vince probably pays attention to these things until he's in danger of actually losing or dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Considering the landing on the Package Piledriver, it's likely safer than Vince taking any actual bump. Owens would never let his head near the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm not advocating anyone of any age taking a shoot headbutt of any severity... But Vince's skin is probably as thin as paper at this point in his life, and a stiff breeze could've opened him up like that. So hopefully it wasn't as stiff as it appeared to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ryan said: Considering the landing on the Package Piledriver, it's likely safer than Vince taking any actual bump. Owens would never let his head near the mat. A la Kane's tombstone of Linda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm sure Hogan would like to put icing on that cake! Also, once Owens is made, he can put over Hulkster on his inevitable WWE return. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 41 minutes ago, Ryan said: Considering the landing on the Package Piledriver, it's likely safer than Vince taking any actual bump. Owens would never let his head near the mat. Yeah, I figured as much. Given a choice, I'd take something like a piledriver from a safe, well-trained worker over a bump where neither one of us is going to be able to protect me, i.e, falling to the floor from the top rope or a double foot stomp to the chest. I have no idea why so many wrestlers think it's a good idea to let a 250 lb. man jump off the top rope and "gently" land feet first on their sternums. I'd make for a terrible pro wrestler. I wouldn't want to take an arm drag. First time I did, I'd be like "Wow. I could strain a muscle. Enough of that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 On the Package Piledriver if you ever watch closely, the guy's held up in the air completely by the opponent and if they tuck their head or the person lands not full legs out, you'll be nowhere near the mat, unlike a regular piledriver or tombstone done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I could absolutely see Vince taking a psycho driver through a table crica 2006. I'm also going to be sad we were never able to get Vince vs. Necro Butcher in some kind of gimmick match. Vince/Necro sounds terrible on paper, but would be so bonkers it would probably work. Only drawback I can see is the stuff leading up to the match. Vince would probably torch Necro on the mic. For some odd reason, I've long wanted to see an Eddie Kingston-Vince McMahon feud. Lol, I blame Fire Pro. It's given me lots of ideas for "dream matches" probably no one else wants to see. I've wanted to see Undertaker-Tenzan (circa 2003-ish) for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Vince taking the backfist to the future would be a very cool sight. I don't see Vince getting enough in to torch Necro on the mic. I see Vince opening his mouth and Necro clocking him in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Ryan said: On the Package Piledriver if you ever watch closely, the guy's held up in the air completely by the opponent and if they tuck their head or the person lands not full legs out, you'll be nowhere near the mat, unlike a regular piledriver or tombstone done properly. Which is exactly why he went for headbutt and splash. More dangerous, pal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Okay, enough with this "Shibata headbutt" nonsense. I'm not a big advocate of headbutts of any kind, but there's light-years of difference between the bump that KO gave Vince and what Shibata would do on a regular basis. The shot that KO took would likely open up someone with a good deal of scar tissue on their noggin. The blows that Shibata dealt out could very easily have killed someone. One is unnecessary and foolish, the other is just downright stupid. Shibata was one of my favorite wrestlers, but that shit was just disturbing to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Watching the Owens segment again, I mostly liked Adam Pearce as a wrestler, buuuutttttttt........... Is last night the fastest he's ever moved in a wrestling ring? I think it might be, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 14 hours ago, peterien said: That was cool and all but the end product has to be KO straight up murdering Shane and not the usual "Shane lost but goddamn hes a tough SOB" routine. The jabs are gonna fly like never before now but that routine will always be the outcome. Shane's gotta have his walking tall badass babyface moment to avenge Vince, much like when Brock F5ed Vince in 2013 leading to Triple H's "The Asskicker is back!" return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raziel Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'd pay money to see Dana Warrior kick the shit out of Ziggler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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