Victator Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 1:07 AM, Ryan said: I forgot about Teddy "buying" Hercules. That was kind of tasteless. Couldn't he have just bought his contractual rights or something? Weird. HERCULES WILL NOT BE A SLAVE! It was about power for Dibiase, he wanted him as a slave, not as a mere Virgil esque lackey. Heenan had to know how this was going to pan out, he got paid in cash, clocked Herc with the case and left. He realized Dibiase was a megalomaniac and wanted to bleed him for what he could. Though Dibiase for his part, stopped doing business with Heenan after this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I was going to say, Herc had no issues having his contract bought in the past by Adnan, CONTINUITY ERROR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Herc started in the WWF with Blassie then transferred to Slick (him and Blassie had a company together) then Slick sold Herc's contract to Heenan. I mean he probably could have dealt with his contract being sold again. Which Heenan probably did do, but Dibiase made a mess of the transfer because he was insane. I would think outside of golden age Hollywood or pre free agency baseball, calling someone your slave is means to dismiss a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 9:52 AM, nofuture said: Nothing better than Dusty commentating his face turn. GARY HART, SEMI PROFESSIONAL WINO FROM CHICAGO. Such a fantastic line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Did he ever make it to Pros? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I ain't gonna lie, I marked like crazy for Beefcake saving Piper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 10:23 AM, cwoy2j said: He didn't even think enough of Gary Hart to consider him a professional wino. Dusty was best friends with Dick Murdoch, so I would imagine his standards in regards to wino achievement level were pretty high. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I've always thought a neat trick was when a popular heel turns face, only to quickly turn back and reveal he was faking it the whole time. If done right, the inevitable real babyface turn works even better in terms of fan response. The Rock in '98 was a great example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Oh man, also, even though this was only a turn for 1 week, the absolute loudest pop I've ever heard happened here (3:00 or so in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 They really should have made that stick. Its rare to get a chance to fix a mistake and they double downed on it. His turn post Survivor Series 2001 was weird. Vince started being a heel and was going to strip Austin of the title. Which apparently had been an option the entire time. Kurt Angle was a heel for saving the WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Not the best, but I love that the Nasty Boys and Natural Disasters had the exact same face turn for the same reason on the same people less than a year apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 This is always one of my favs because when I envisioned his turn, it was exactly like this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Didn't see this one mentioned yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 It wasn't their fault that Garvin got hit with a cosmic fireball. Couldn't Tony Schiavona understand that??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 4:36 AM, Victator said: It was about power for Dibiase, he wanted him as a slave, not as a mere Virgil esque lackey. Heenan had to know how this was going to pan out, he got paid in cash, clocked Herc with the case and left. He realized Dibiase was a megalomaniac and wanted to bleed him for what he could. Though Dibiase for his part, stopped doing business with Heenan after this. DiBiase did not stop doing business with Heenan after this. DiBiase aided Mr. Perfect in winning the IC title back from Kerry von Erich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 And they both had a hand in bringing The Brother Love Show to air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1. Brother Love was before the Hercules transaction. 2. It seems Dibiase was paid by Heenan that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 No one expected to see this shit. I marked for days even though it really seemed out of place.. In retrospect, there are some guys who should have never wrestled as a face. Dick Murdoch, Big Van Vader, Blackjack Mulligan, Bruiser Brody, and Stan Hansen is on that immediate short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 For some reason, I am having an old man hazy flashback of reading in a dirtsheet that The Great Kabuki once turned face during an angle in NWA / WCW over Gary Hart mismanaging The Great Muta aka Kabuki's kayfabe son. Yet another awkward face turn that probably would've been fucking awesome to see live. For the life of me, I can't find any references on the interwebs about it, so I am chalking it up to Early Onset Alzheimer's., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, J.T. said: No one expected to see this shit. I marked for days even though it really seemed out of place.. In retrospect, there are some guys who should have never wrestled as a face. Dick Murdoch, Big Van Vader, Blackjack Mulligan, Bruiser Brody, and Stan Hansen is on that immediate short list. I'll give you Vader and Brody*, but the others were great tough-guy babyfaces... even Hansen in Georgia (his only sustained good guy run to the best of my knowledge). *= Although Brody had one of the all-time great ring announcer calls when he was a face in World Class, courtesy of Marc Lowrance. "Albuquerque New Mexico, the world-famous BRUUUUUUISERRRRRRRR BRODY!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffman Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 It's definitely because of growing up in St. Louis watching Wrestling at the Chase, but I can never picture Brody as anything other than King Kong Brody, the rough-and-tumble babyface who loved the fans and went crazy only when he had to do so. Now Dick Murdoch, he was always pure evil. Comic evil, to be sure, but evil nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 hours ago, J.T. said: For some reason, I am having an old man hazy flashback of reading in a dirtsheet that The Great Kabuki once turned face during an angle in NWA / WCW over Gary Hart mismanaging The Great Muta aka Kabuki's kayfabe son. Yet another awkward face turn that probably would've been fucking awesome to see live. For the life of me, I can't find any references on the interwebs about it, so I am chalking it up to Early Onset Alzheimer's., Kabuki was a face when he was managed by Sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 hours ago, J.T. said: No one expected to see this shit. I marked for days even though it really seemed out of place.. In retrospect, there are some guys who should have never wrestled as a face. Dick Murdoch, Big Van Vader, Blackjack Mulligan, Bruiser Brody, and Stan Hansen is on that immediate short list. Murdoch as the patriotic Captain Redneck ex-Marine makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Murdoch as the patriotic Captain Redneck ex-Marine makes sense. Patriotic to the point where he turned heel because Dusty teaming with Nikita Koloff pissed him off that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pete said: Patriotic to the point where he turned heel because Dusty teaming with Nikita Koloff pissed him off that badly. And teaming with Ivan, iirc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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