piranesi Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: The whole "James Bond is a codename" thing was never supported by the movies. The dead wife and the family motto have both followed him through various actors. Fuck I hate that stupid theory. I don't mean it was ever a good theory for Dr. No - Die Another Day. I just mean that for the first time ever they actually have the chance to implement it, since none of the pre-Craig movies are canon to the Craig story. IF they want continuity between these five movies and the next four or five and not another reboot, AND they want to continue to call them James Bond movies, they kind of have to consider doing that now. Edited July 15, 2019 by piranesi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Execproducer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 If we get Craig dropping Waltz down a smokestack they can do whatever else they want. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, piranesi said: I don't mean it was ever a good theory for Dr. No - Die Another Day. I just mean that for the first time ever they actually have the chance to implement it, since none of the pre-Craig movies are canon to the Craig story. IF they want continuity between these five movies and the next four or five and not another reboot, AND they want to continue to call them James Bond movies, they kind of have to consider doing that now. Or, and bear with me here, Bond 26 just has a new guy in the same role, and the movie follows from these but each movie is a standalone adventure that doesn't really rely on continuity other than for a few little moments that are nice for fans but not important enough to confuse new viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Or, and bear with me here, Bond 26 just has a new guy in the same role, and the movie follows from these but each movie is a standalone adventure that doesn't really rely on continuity other than for a few little moments that are nice for fans but not important enough to confuse new viewers. Look, my friend of questionable horror taste, I’m not advocating for this.... it just seems unlikely to me that they aren’t looking at the (kind of shocking when you think back to where the series was) profit of 21-24 and trying to figure out how to keep that going. And continuity was one factor at least that set these five apart from the rest of the series. at the very least I think they have some big conceptual decisions to make after 25 beyond just who’s the new Bond unless they take another pretty long hiatus. I mean, in some ways, going from the amount of narrative continuity from 20-25 and then just suddenly going back to each is a stand-alone adventure would itself be a pretty shocking or jarring move. one might say the success of these movies has painted them into a corner that isn’t easy to get out of. Edited July 15, 2019 by piranesi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) I think you are way overestimating their relative success. Skyfall, granted, had the third best adjusted box office, but that's the one with the least continuity. Three out of the four Brosnan films sold more tickets than all three other Craig films domestically, and all four outsold QoS and Spectre, the two that leaned most heavily on continuity. Edited July 15, 2019 by Brian Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: Three out of the four Brosnan films sold more tickets than all three other Craig films domestically, This genuinely shocked me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Execproducer said: Unless it happens early in the film and she actually gets killed off midway so Bond can come back for revenge. "Fridging" her might be worse than just calling her "Jane Bond". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I have a feeling this is purely a publicity stunt and that Lynch's 007 will get taken out along the same lines as 009 in Octopussy. Also they could do a "Living Daylights" type scenario where someone whacks all the 00's and they need to bring back Bond to save the day. If they really want to shake things up for 26 and beyond is there any chance they end 25 with Craig's Bond becoming the new M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 If they fridge the first Black 00 lead who also happens to be a woman to being back the old white dude to save the day, just kill the franchise off right there, or better yet, just don't make the damn movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Have they killed Felix Leiter yet in the Craig reboot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: Have they killed Felix Leiter yet in the Craig reboot? No. A reel they released a few weeks back shows Jeffrey Wright reprising the role in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) My prediction. Lynch's character doesn't get killed off or become a bad guy. She will be shown as Bond's equal and will also be depicted in a heroic way. That's about it. Edited July 15, 2019 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 For a loner sociopath, Bond's scooby gang has gotten huge if they try to find a way to get M and Moneypenny and Q all in the field again (which I wish they would stop doing), and Felix is a big part of it, and another 007 and maybe Madeleine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Name of James Bond 25 just announced. No Time To Die, 3rd April 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Cheers, @Dolfan in NYC. Here's the announcement: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 April? It will just miss the May cut for the 2020 Summer Blockbuster Pool. Damn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4th Bond movie to have "die" in the title taking the lead over "gold" which is in the title of 3 movies. I wish they'd be more original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 7/10/2017 at 3:35 PM, The Natural said: Sequence: Casino Royal (2006) Qauntum of Solace (2008) Skyfall (2012) Spectre (2015) More odd Craig Bond films, less even please. Hope No Time To Die carries the baton on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Sounds like a song title from Fields of the Nephelim or The Mission UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The Natural said: Hope No Time To Die carries the baton on. Roger Moore's 1st, 3rd and 5th Bond films were great, 2nd, 4th and 6th poor, he ruined the sequence by having a poor 7th film though with View to a Kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Happ Hazzard said: Roger Moore's 1st, 3rd and 5th Bond films were great, 2nd, 4th and 6th poor, he ruined the sequence by having a poor 7th film though with View to a Kill. Reverse star trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I ain't got time to bleed, I mean, die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have to watch Spectre again. I feel like it sucked but I don't remember a damn thing about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I have to watch Spectre again. I feel like it sucked but I don't remember a damn thing about it. Day of the Dead, big Dave, Christoph Waltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Day of the Dead, big Dave, Christoph Waltz. That part was cool. Big Dave was cool. I feel like Waltz was underwhelming I was expecting better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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